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Tango0112 Nov 2020 9:13 p.m. PST

"On December 23, 1950, a tragedy occurred in a land that had suffered a tragic six months. Korea, once colonised, now divided, was again a battlefield as the great powers fought for control of East Asia. Having consumed the lives of thousands of soldiers, and untold numbers of local civilians, one of the Korean War's top commanders was now dead, killed as his jeep collided with an Army truck. Six years prior, he had been part of the spearhead of Patton's Third Army as it triumphantly stormed across Western Europe. There, he had earned the nickname ‘Bulldog' for his aggressive approach to warfare, and that same aggression had seen his armies drive most of the way to the Yalu. Perhaps he had been too aggressive. Surprised by the entry of Red China into the war, his Eighth Army had been forced into a headlong retreat. As Seoul came under threat for the second time, Walker's last words were "I wonder what George would have done?"…"
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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse13 Nov 2020 8:58 a.m. PST

IIRC Patton's son commanded a Tank Bn in the ROK. Regardless who would have been in command, the US Army was in very poor condition and not ready to fight another war. As were many of the other UN members who deployed. At least initially …

We were not ready for WWI, WWII or Korea … fortunately that trend has change for the most part since then. But currently I'm not sure what the future hold for the US Military in light of recent events …

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2020 5:10 p.m. PST

Veterans of WWII did well, regardless of if they'd stayed in the service or were called back from the reserves. The U.S. Marines stand out in this fashion, as to accounts of army units where known veterans of WWII were pointed out in after action reports.

Draftees, poorly trained and not expecting to ever serve in combat did badly, being shipped without warning from a peaceful billet to combat within a few days or weeks. Out of shape both physically and mentally, it took time and casualties to weed out those who were not up to the experience.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse14 Nov 2020 8:43 a.m. PST

Very true as I always have mentioned training and experience is very important to combat units and the military in general. This why it's good to have a strong well trained professional military. E.g. as time went on in Vietnam there were many units that were populated mostly with Draftees.

Where in the beginning you had a better mix of professionals and draftees. But after many of the professionals had a couple of tours, or more, many did not rotate back. For obvious reasons. Plus some professionals were KIAs or WIAs.
One US Army Gen. said when he got to Vietnam as a Plt Ldr. Only he and is Plt Sgt were not draftees.

I knew someone whose Dad was with the USMC at Guadalcanal and Okinawa in WWII. Then at Inchon. And lived to tell about it.

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