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Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2020 5:05 a.m. PST

Looks like Vallejo is now producing spray cans. Billed as a combination primer and initial color they have 5 AFV colors and 4 uniform colors.
AFV:
Panzer Grey
Panzer Yellow
Russian Green 4BO
UK Bronze
US Olive Drab

Uniform:
English Uniform
German Field Grey
Russian Uniform
US Khaki

They come in 400ml cans and looking around the net some pretty decent prices, especially figuring they are over 3 times as much paint as most hobby spray cans like Testors or Tamiya. They come with two nozzles, one for finer line work and one for overall spray. The UK Bronze strikes me as very late war or later (not SCC 15) but the other look pretty good.

Anyone use these yet and care to comment/leave a review?

acrylicosvallejo.com/en/?s=afv

John Leahy12 Nov 2020 5:17 a.m. PST

Yep, been using them for a bit now. I like them.

Thanks.

John

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2020 6:15 a.m. PST

I just discovered these myself, but haven't tried them yet.

Vallejo claims that each has a matching brush-on Vallejo acrylic, though these can be a bit hard to find, given the way Vallejo organizes their web site and names the colors. I would love to know how close the color matches are between spray and brush-on version, if anyone has tried matching.

- Ix

Jeffers12 Nov 2020 8:31 a.m. PST

How different are these from PSC?

0ldYeller12 Nov 2020 11:42 a.m. PST

I have used the AFV colours quite a bit, except for the Panzer Yellow which I did not like.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2020 2:43 p.m. PST

They sound like a Godsend but I cannot find any UK stockist, even EU seems a challenge!

McWong7312 Nov 2020 3:43 p.m. PST

Used them a lot, good quality product. They're certainly my go to for rattle cans.

Bandolier12 Nov 2020 3:52 p.m. PST

I've had good experience with them, also.
Smooth coverage and no nozzle clogging issues so far.

Wargamer Blue12 Nov 2020 7:16 p.m. PST

Started using them a year ago. Great product. No problems at all. Since the pandemic they have been hard to get.

repaint13 Nov 2020 1:41 a.m. PST

use them a lot. I like them

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2020 3:30 a.m. PST

Sounds a must have to me and still searching on line through the usual UK Vallejo stockists.

I will also blame the pandemic!

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2020 6:10 a.m. PST

Thanks for all the input guys. Except for the UK Bronze think I can use all of them. Especially intrigued with the uniform ones.

Mark5213 Nov 2020 1:22 p.m. PST

I like them. I purchased from Fantasywelt.de.

Dan in Vermont17 Nov 2020 8:53 a.m. PST

Is the Panzer Yellow equal to Dunkelgelb or Dunkelgelb Nach Muster?

Also, I game with 15mm so most tutorials recommend adding 10%-20% white to your base coat…..as visually the tanks would look lighter from a distance.

After you apply the base spray coat, do you then drybrush with a standard Vallejo MC lightened with white?

Thanks!

Trajanus22 Nov 2020 9:14 a.m. PST

Sounds a must have to me and still searching on line through the usual UK Vallejo stockists.

Amazon appear to carry all of them including Skintone Pale Flesh.

Quite what army you would want to spray in that is anyone's guess! Some Ancient Armies maybe?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 8:08 a.m. PST

The obvious place to look….and I did not.

Two cans now on order from Amazon. The postage costs more than one can, as coming from Germany but do I care?

Really grateful

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2020 5:47 a.m. PST

Do let us know what you think deadhead. May order some soon as well.

deephorse24 Nov 2020 7:08 a.m. PST

Two cans now on order from Amazon. The postage costs more than one can, as coming from Germany but do I care?

You must want it really badly. No way I'm paying £12.99 GBP to have a £9.73 GBP can of paint delivered.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2020 1:37 a.m. PST

The way things are right now….what else is there to spend my final salary pension on? The debate about Olive Drab has reopened I see. So, I ask, is this VN era OD, or is it WWII and ideal for my many unmade 2emeDB vehicles? We will see and no-one really knows anyway.

deephorse25 Nov 2020 3:08 a.m. PST

Well I'm finding plenty of ways to dispose of my final salary pension! None of them involve paying that ratio of product to postage cost. But each to their own. No doubt I'm buying stuff that you wouldn't touch with a barge pole!

Personal logo 4th Cuirassier Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2020 3:24 a.m. PST

First world problems…

Trajanus30 Nov 2020 8:12 a.m. PST

Buying almost anything on Amazon is a test.

The fact there often seems to be more one avenue to arrive any given product can produce some really wild variation in prices.

You can easily pay double or more for dropper bottle size Vallejo paint by just taking the wrong path.

Dan in Vermont30 Nov 2020 10:55 a.m. PST

Is the Panzer Yellow equal to Dunkelgelb or Dunkelgelb Nach Muster?

Also, I game with 15mm so most tutorials recommend adding 10%-20% white to your base coat…..as visually the tanks would look lighter from a distance.

After you apply the base spray coat, do you then drybrush with a standard Vallejo MC lightened with white?

Thanks!

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2020 12:36 p.m. PST

I have and do use lightened shades and finally a very small bit, very gentle, of white.

In the past, and when I have the time, I find dry brushing with artist oils the best. For Dunkelgelb I use a mix of 70% Yellow Ochre and 30% Titanium White. A tube of artist oils, like Windsor & Newton, lasts forever.

Trajanus02 Dec 2020 8:44 a.m. PST

There's a lot to be said for using lighter shades on smaller scales.

Back in the day I was turned off 6mm Napoleonic gaming after seeing too many tables that had taken advantage of the mass effect but lost any real sense of difference between nationalities as pretty much everything was a dark clump.

Of course it can be argued that observation made at such a distance that real people would appear so small, actually has that effect but it really detracts from the gaming aspect.

Its hard enough to tell 10mm WW2 infantry miniatures apart when up close to them. When standing at the table edge keeping a shade or so lighter in their uniforms appearance is worth it.

Tanks however I'm not bothered about so much . Being larger, the shape outline is generally good enough for me.

John Leahy17 Dec 2020 10:08 a.m. PST

I found that my local Hobbytown USA carries all the Vallejo spray paints. I was able to pick some Olive drab. They carry a ton of Vallejo paint. My go to site now.

Thanks.

John

Eclaireur28 Dec 2020 8:29 a.m. PST

I've done my first experiment with the Panzer Grey in this range. It's very dark, not that far off black in fact. It might be right for an actual 1:1 tank but for something at miniatures scale it's not a good match. I will repaint the vehicles with something else,
EC

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2020 11:08 a.m. PST

Might make a good base coat then.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP29 Dec 2020 2:13 a.m. PST

Vallejo Olive Drab is great as a base coat. It debuted for me last night on my 1/72 scale jeep. Nice thin coat, but covered over brass and Greenstuff and challenging sand-coloured Heller plastic and it preserved all the detail.

Very pleased with it, but it instantly struck me, whatever they say, it is not their dropper bottle shade. The spray is much greener. Looks vaguely the way I imagine British WWII tanks. Still, it means a much thinner coat of the browner and darker paint will suffice, with obvious advantages.

I would recommend it whatever. Glad I got two as the postage was the same! Astronomical

Eclaireur29 Dec 2020 3:24 a.m. PST

@Marc – yep, I tried lightening the vehicles with panel shading and will now resort to an airbrush to boost it up a bit more.

@deadhead I bought two for the same reason! hopefully the Russian Green 4BO will come up as nicely as your Olive Drab.

EC

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP29 Dec 2020 6:40 a.m. PST

The Vallejo dropper bottle that most use for US Olive Drab is #887 Brown Violet (still trying to wrap my head around the "violet" part), wonder how compares to that.

For the British SSC 15 Olive Drab several companies now have that color. Since I used a mix of Vallejo paints for that shade continue to do so. I use a 50:50 mix of #888 Olive Grey and #924 Russian Uniform. Vallejo makes a nice bottle that holds two of their dropper bottles so perfect for making up a batch.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 Dec 2020 7:54 a.m. PST

I have two bottles labelled US Olive Drab 70.889. Bought in the last year to 18 months, but who knows how long on the shelves? Luckily both are in good condition.

Painted up my French jeep, transfers on with much swearing, weathered etc. My Olive Drab bottle is much browner than the spray of the same name. Still makes a great base coat

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 9:38 a.m. PST

Few months on, let me show my latest project sprayed with Vallejo Olive Drab against an earlier model that started out the same but was then painted with Vallejo OD from the dropper bottle (OK, there was a black wash, dry brushed weathering and a matt varnish. Plus this is a crude flash photo of both. But there is a difference. I did try sticking with the spray, then a couple of back washes, then brown ++++, but gave up. No short cuts with this spray…which is a great undercoat…but it is not US OD of WWII)

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Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2021 6:25 a.m. PST

An interesting discussion on OD green by Steven Zaloga
PDF link

At the time of the article, 2002, Mr Zaloga said Tamiya XF-62 was the closest out of the bottle match. Since then we have had a number of companies put out their version. Would be nice to see an updated recommendation from Mr Zaloga.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 2:27 a.m. PST

What a brilliant article. I totally missed your response at the time.

I got out my largely unused Tamiya XF 62 and gave it another try. On his colour chart it looks exactly the colour I want, but my bottle simply dries MUCH greener than shown. Vallejo, bottled, is dark and a black wash only worsens that but I then try to fill in every panel with a second coat, to highlight it.

The discussion about the history of OD, the scale effect question and the unreliability of the limited number of genuine contemporary colour photos makes for great reading. Thanks!

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