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Lascaris09 Nov 2020 11:06 a.m. PST

Question in the subject. I've seen 10mm listed as 1:160, 1:182 and 1:200. Specifically I would like to know what Pendraken 10mm WW2 figures true scale actually is but generically I'm curious also.

JimDuncanUK09 Nov 2020 11:09 a.m. PST

Why don't you try asking Pendraken.

pendraken.co.uk/ContactUs

Dagwood09 Nov 2020 11:14 a.m. PST

Take the height of the figure and compare it to 1800 mm.

Then the question becomes, "How tall is a 10mm figure ?"

Schogun09 Nov 2020 12:27 p.m. PST

My rule of thumb is:
10mm = 1/160
12mm = 1/150 – 1/144

Leon/Pendraken said back in June that "We scale our vehicles to 1:150th (although some of them are 20+ years old and weren't scaled as accurately, so we're in the process of replacing any of those older models)."

Pendraken has beautiful sculpts and their selection is much better than when I started in WWII 10/12mm five years ago.

However, just like other scales, even though manufacturers say their models are an actual scale, the dimensions don't always work out to be that scale, i.e. too long, too narrow, too tall, etc.

And if you mount your vehicles on bases, that will throw off the scale and look even more.

Hope this helps!

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Nov 2020 12:42 p.m. PST

Assuming average WW2 man is 5feet and 8 inches tall.
The average WW2 man is not 6 feet tall.
If you think he was 6ft tall then please stop reading now.
In fact 6ft is not the average height in 2020 for fighting men.
Visit a Gurkha regiment.


5ft 8inches =68 inches.
68x 2.54=173 cms

Gives us 173rd scale.

However if the 10mm is not to the top of the head then it all becomes a little ridiculous.

The problem is that with small figures, the base and necessity of robustness cause distortion and figures as tall as battle tanks.

One solution for aesthetics might be to model WW2 and beyond figures as prone. then no base and no height?

The first 10mm figures came out in 1974 to go with the card 150th scale tanks.

martin

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Nov 2020 12:59 p.m. PST

All depends from average human height for period. From this will be calculated the scale of weaponry and equipment. For Napoleonics I sculpt my 10mm as 1:150.

Dagwood09 Nov 2020 2:27 p.m. PST

Assuming 6 foot or 1.8 metres makes the maths easier. That's where the common 1/72nd scale comes from.

And soldiers are taller than average as very short guys fail the recruitment standard.

And don't forget the boots !

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP09 Nov 2020 4:23 p.m. PST

And now Victrix has plastic 12mm WWII with 1/144 vehicles. Pendraken are awesome by the way. We are spoiled for good miniatures!

Thresher0109 Nov 2020 4:33 p.m. PST

As above.

From what I've seen and read, generally 1/144th scale is 12mm (that's my strong personal view).

Others call anything from 1/144th – 1/200th 10mm too.

PSC, Arrowhead, and Victrix are 1/144th, as are the Dragon/CanDo, Takara, Bandai, and others.

Pendraken, Red3, and Minifigs are 1/150th scale.

DyeHard09 Nov 2020 4:43 p.m. PST

Don't forget TMP "All About Scales" page:

TMP link

It says:
"10mm Relatively new scale, used for fantasy, historical and science fiction. Some think this will be the popular scale of the future, larger enough to show detail but small enough to fit a large army on a tabletop. 1/161"

Schogun09 Nov 2020 7:37 p.m. PST

Add Pithead to the 1/150 list.

Add Kamiya (found on ebay) to the 1/144 list.

Dan Cyr09 Nov 2020 8:04 p.m. PST

I've been scaling 1/200 and 1/100 3D files to print to 1/144. When comparing the prints, they match Pendraken's vehicles exactly in dimensions.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Nov 2020 2:41 a.m. PST

Anyone here actually been in the infantry?
Was the average height 6ft?
Too many hollywood films I fear.


martin

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP10 Nov 2020 7:42 a.m. PST

Agree with Shogun

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