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04 Nov 2020 6:05 a.m. PST
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Olaf 0303 Nov 2020 8:56 p.m. PST

I typically use Dullcote on my figures but I noticed that all online retailers that I usually buy Dullcote from are listing it as "Out of Stock". So I bought a bottle of the Krylon Clear Matte Finish.

Just curious what people's experience has been with Krylon Matte finish and if it works as well as Dullcote (or is worse or better).

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2020 9:57 p.m. PST

I like Krylon Matte spray. I suggest you test it on some figures since you have it. But if you are worried paint some scrap bits and spray them. I think you will be pleased

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 3:11 a.m. PST

Krylon Matte has never gone yellow with age on my castings, which is why I try not to use Dullcote at all, and never on anything white.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 4:27 a.m. PST

I used Dullcoat for decades with mostly good results. However I have started using Winsor & Newton Professional Matt Varnish with only outstanding results. I've never looked back and as an added bonus, its cheaper than Dullcoat.

Olaf 0304 Nov 2020 5:41 a.m. PST

Thanks for the feedback. I am glad to hear that the Krylon spray is good.

Big Red, is the Winsor & Newton Matte Varnish a spray or a brush-on product?

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 5:55 a.m. PST

Spray

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Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 7:33 a.m. PST

I used Krylon Flat for a while, but my results were not consistently good. I had some very complicated directions from another wargamer. Only spray in one direction. Do multiple light coats and on and on.

I strongly agree with those above recommending Winsor Newton.

Here is part of a post I did when a Dullcote question came up in the past:

Then I tried Winsor & Newton Professional Matt Spray Varnish. I started using it since at least 2017.

Here are the results after spraying 100s of figures and lots of vehicles, buildings, earthworks and other terrain pieces.

Temperature in the 40s F – dried flat.
Temperature in the low 90sF – dried flat.
Humidity 92 per cent – dried flat.
Thick coat – dried flat.
Thin coat – dried flat.
Sprayed clear gloss (Krylon or Rustoleum) at 1:30 pm and W/N Matt at 4:00 pm, same day, – dried flat.

It has never, ever failed me.

My experience with clear sprays made in the US is that "matt" or "matte" usually means semi-gloss or satin. W/N is made in Britain and matt means perfectly flat.

The price from Dick Blick is very good. It has always been discounted. I have not price checked for a while, but the last time I did I found Dick Blick's discounted price is $9.56 USD for 400 ml (13.53 ounces according to Siri). That is less than 71 cents an ounce.

The cheapest I saw Dullcote was 3 ounces for $4.77 USD. That is over $1.59 USD per ounce!!

I read at least one post saying W/N was more expensive than Dullcote. The price per can is a lot more, but you get a whole lot more.

Here is a link to the product at Dick Blick:

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Don't be put off by the warning that the paint has to dry for at least 6-12 months before applying the product to the paint. That may be for artists oils which take an extremely long time to thoroughly dry unless a drier is added. I do it within hours of my gloss coat which I put on the day after I finish my painting.

I sent Winsor & Newton an email asking about shelf life as I intended to buy six cans at a time. The response indicated that the question was interpreted to mean a can that had been started. The answer was that there was no known shelf life limitation. What I bought in April of 2018 is still fine.

If you try it, I hope your results are as good as mine.

Tom

14th NJ Vol Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 8:11 a.m. PST

I use Krylon Flat (matte a bit to shiny). No issues. However it is sensitive to Humidity . I only spray when humidity is less than 55%. Label on can says 65%. I found any humidity in the 60+% range & the results can vary model to model. Has never yellowed & is far less expensive then DullCote.

mildbill04 Nov 2020 8:41 a.m. PST

I use Krylon satin with good results.

bjporter04 Nov 2020 8:58 a.m. PST

I have used the Krylon Flat mostly for terrain and large items with no issues.

For figures, I trust DullCote the most.

I have tried Windsor & Newton for figures. It is dead flat, but I got hundreds of tiny specks on the surfaces of figures rather than completely smooth with Dullcote. Also the W & N would get tiny white specks of build up. I was able to pick off most of those.

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 9:07 a.m. PST

I use Krylon Matte Spray all the time, on both metal and plastic figures. Never had a problem and the figures look good. I would agree never use any Spray coat of any kind in humid weather.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 10:56 a.m. PST

Another vote for Krylon – love their spray paint, both the matt and the coloured varities

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2020 3:59 p.m. PST

I use Minwax polyurethane with and without tint (figure dip). Brush it on.

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