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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2020 3:40 p.m. PST

"Across Southeast Asia, scenario planning exercises by analysts and policymakers preparing for the unthinkable a military clash between the world's two largest economies in their backyard has taken on added significance in recent weeks.

Tensions between the US and China, already fraught over trade, technology and the South China Sea, deepened as Beijing protested against Washington's ties to Taipei and conducted military activities close to the self-ruled island last week.

The question "What will happen if a shooting war erupts between China and the US?" has played on the mind of Manila-based defence researcher Jose Antonio Custodio…"


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JMcCarroll15 Oct 2020 3:47 p.m. PST

Answer: Which of those countries wants to speak Chinese?

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2020 3:50 p.m. PST

It depends.

I suspect many may go for the long play, and ask who they think will ultimately win, AND who they live closest to?

That does not bode well for the USA.

See the Philippines as a prime example of the above.

HMS Exeter15 Oct 2020 4:03 p.m. PST

Unless they have been attacked by China, they will move heaven and earth to hug the sidelines.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 Oct 2020 4:34 p.m. PST

Lots of corruption there, lots of funny money, and China is a lot closer than the USA is.

arealdeadone15 Oct 2020 4:42 p.m. PST

Alas old news!

Thailand is mentioned as a maybe US friend but it ignores the massive ties between the two countries including increasing military ties.

All of these countries love Chinese money too.

And other than Singapore all of them other have worthless militaries that have no defensive capabilities. In many cases their militaries are extremely corrupt, poorly equipped and which often have more of an internal policing role than defence.

Thus they actually quite a defense liability.

arealdeadone15 Oct 2020 7:50 p.m. PST

Sorry made an error – I was meant to say "ignores the massive ties between China and Thailand including increasing military ties."

RudyNelson15 Oct 2020 10:47 p.m. PST

China will be the choice of their governments and economic leaders.
The people will concur until Chinese cultural policy tries to replace local culture, as in Tibet. At that time local resistance will occur causing a minor headache for the Chinese army.

nsolomon9916 Oct 2020 3:26 a.m. PST

Actually, apart from the Cold War with India at Ladakh in the Himalayas, Vietnam was in fact the last country to be invaded by the Chinese PLA. Back in the late 70's if I recall correctly. The Vietnamese Army did so well resisting that it caused a rethink and re-org in the PLA – they re-introduced Officer's ranks as I recall.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2020 12:38 p.m. PST

I'm with Bill….


15mm and 28mm Fanatik16 Oct 2020 12:53 p.m. PST

The PLA in the 1970's is by-and-large a "people's army" comprised of ill-equipped and inadequately trained peasants. The modern PLA is a high-tech force of well-trained and educated professionals modeled after western armies and schooled in western military doctrines. To compare what might happen today to 1979 is like comparing apples to kumquats.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse17 Oct 2020 9:46 a.m. PST

To make an ally of these countries would require us to defend them.

RudyNelson17 Oct 2020 9:10 p.m. PST

Why? The US no longer needs to be deployed as a viable force overseas. No force can survive so is not viable.
We could not reinforce them or even res up ply them. Only a trip wire presence as we were in the Cold War.

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