"China ‘ready to work with Russia’ to resist US global" Topic

…dominance.

"China will work with Russia to defend multilateralism and resist US attempts at global dominance.

That was the message Beijing's ambassador to Moscow, Zhang Hanhui, delivered in an interview with Russian media…"

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Birds of the same feather blah blah blah. Nothing new to see here, folks.

Hmmm, perhaps we should cut a "deal" with the Russians to do the same thing against China…..

Sounds like desperation. Unless Putin's a total fool he has to know that China's thirst for resources has them eyeing Russian Siberia…when, not if, on the current path.

perhaps we should cut a "deal" with the Russians

The POTUS has tried for the last 4 years to reset relations with the Kremlin but failed. He's running out of time. If there's anything both political parties agree on, it's that Russia is bad.

We can talk realpolitik all we want but the reality is that idealpolitik "trumps" realpolitik. Pun inteded.

Why does China need a war on its borders with a nuclear power when it can easily get everything it needs for money? And cheap enough, since Russia is under sanctions and has little choice.
Putin dreamed of "Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok." But the West itself is pushing Russia into the arms of China.
Well, the need to be "good" is too expensive for Russia)))

China is Russia's second largest gas customer, behind only Germany. China and Russia also share the same geopolitical goal of a multi-polar world order rather than one dominated by "American hegemony."

I've wrote many times that Russia has no illusions about China, i've even been asking the question if China will try to get rid of Russia first, and then deal with USA, or they'll try to form a military alliance with Russia to topple USA and then eat us alive. For both powers the prospect doesn't look too optimistic.
But yes, you're right, it is so much more easier to have an official enemy with whom you have little trade ties than to declare a country where you have deployed billions of investments and with huge export and import turnover your rival and nemesis. Heck, the US company I'm working for, is moving some production to China right now…
Seeing as the world politics is dominated by business interests China might become your best buddy again after certain outcome of the elections ;)

I agree, Russia is bad, but China is far, far more powerful economically, AND on the rise.

The only think Russia's really got going for it is its very large, nuclear weapons inventory, and excellent designers of military kit and jet engines, in addition to fossil fuels.

Yeah, China would love to "work" with Russia, as in stealing their resources and military technology.
Unfortunately the West doesn't seem able to grasp that Russia isn't the Soviet Union anymore.
As a result they keep pushing Russia towards China.
Which is rather dumb because Russia has great potential as an ally, and will be very dangerous as an enemy.

Glup!.

Amicalement
Armand

Barin, Russia serves China very well. Russia keeps US attention divided.

Russia's meddling in the Mediterranean, sabre rattling in the Baltics and interventions in NATO hopefuls Ukraine and Georgia keeps the US focus divided between Europe, Middle East and Asia.

Thus the Americans are distracted by keeping an increasingly defenceless Europe secure and spluttering along in Africa, Middle East and Afghanistan.

It also helps that American foreign policy is partially based on holding of illogical grudges instead of practical realpolitik. So they hate on Russia. Even if Russia (or Cuba) converted to the purest liberal democracy on par with Switzerland, the Americans would rage against them.

Indeed as the Americans don't have much economic "meat in the game" with the Russians, they are far more willing to go head-to-head diplomatically and publicly against Russia than China.

Indeed China slipped under the radar up to recently.

I remember this was on the reasons Europe got an advantage over Islamic empires. The Islamic empires were too focused on each other and ignored the rise of European powers until it was too late.

The Russia-America feud is similar – the Russians and Americans focus on each other whilst ignoring the rise of China.

Russia is playing off both China and the USA off against each other. It is the best they can do.

Well, I think you two are doing fine without our interference, as there's more to fight for between USA and China. I don't think it is Russia initiating all those tariffs and embargo wars, mutual accusations on the subject of COVID, human rights rows etc.
But of course it is easier to blame someone else for your own problems, our government has also perfected the skill…

The west (US and EU) picked the fight with Russia in the first place by fomenting and supporting democratic color revolutions in her "near abroad" (geopolitical sphere-of-influence), which gave Russia the perfect excuse for military action in Georgia and the Crimea. Russia has drawn a red line on NATO expansion, which was ignored repeatedly. Putin finally put a stop to it.

Yeah, it's always the Russians did this and the Russians did that.
The truth is the Russians mostly just react to actions by the West.
The Russians made a deal with the West; they were going to release their control over Eastern Europe and the West was going to keep their military out of all these former Warsaw pact countries, effectively turning eastern Europe into a military buffer zone.
But the moment the Russian military went on vacation so to say the West added all these countries to NATO, dishonoring the deal they made.
So the Russians built up their military again.
And then the West, mainly in the form of the EU, started to meddle in former Soviet States, states that were, and still are, part of the Russian economic system, adding an economic threat to the already created military one.
And then, after installing an illegal pro-EU leadership in Ukraine, they tried to use Ukraine as a proxy to get the Russians out of the Crimea, which happens to be a strategically crucial piece of Russian real estate mainly inhabited by Russians.
The Russians reacted to this attempted land grab by organizing a referendum, and the Crimea's inhabitants decided to become part of Russia instead of part of Ukraine.
The West then accused Russia of fraud, as if that would be necessary with a population existing for three quarters out of Russians, almost no Ukrainians, and the Crimea's main economic ties being with Russia.
Much the same goes for the ethnically Russian eastern Ukrainian provinces.
After the illegal installation of an anti-Russian and pro EU regime in Kiev by the West these eastern provinces decided they didn't want to become part of this new Ukraine, so they declared their independence.
Kiev then decided to unleash it's military on them, including bombing raids on civilian targets like major towns and cities.
That's when the Russians intervened; Putin wasn't going to look away while ethnic Russian civilians were getting bombed into oblivion by a bunch of EU cronies.
But that isn't how the Western media presented the whole matter of course.
They picture the Russians as the "bad guys" in order to provide the Deep State / EU with an excuse for their aggressive eastward expansion.
And China is the laughing third

Well, at least someone sees the situation in a real light))) I am not a supporter of Putin – but neither he nor Russia has any other choice. Here, in Russia, everyone very well remembers what the West's expansion to the East is leading to.