Tango01  | 12 Oct 2020 2:57 p.m. PST |
Of possible interest? link
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 SHaT1984 | 15 Oct 2020 1:35 p.m. PST |
and another- where the myth of the '1805 Grenadier shako' is perpetuated… link d |
| von Winterfeldt | 19 Oct 2020 4:18 a.m. PST |
the author is basing his information on Zweguintzow and Viskovatov, on what information are you basing your knowledge? |
| Widowson | 19 Oct 2020 1:49 p.m. PST |
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| SHaT1984 | 19 Oct 2020 3:45 p.m. PST |
Ahh, the 'expert' information presented on this forum by you guys that said 1805 shakoes were not worn at Austlz. but mitres were still… |
| Prince of Essling | 20 Oct 2020 10:34 p.m. PST |
@SHaT1984 – from my recollection of the exchanges that I read on TMP, I think the suggestion was a mix of shako & mitre. Not one or the other… but stand to be corrected. |
| von Winterfeldt | 21 Oct 2020 4:11 a.m. PST |
Right you are – it was a mixture, so ShaT 1984 is creating another myth. This is at least what my sources say, Prussian eye witnesses who saw the Russians when on the retreat after the battle of Austerlitz. |
| ReallySameSeneffeAsBefore | 22 Oct 2020 10:22 a.m. PST |
I've always thought that there was a mix of Grenadier headwear at Austerlitz and don't remember any debates on this forum that suggested anything else. The main question has always been which regiments wore which as I recall. |
| SHaT1984 | 23 Oct 2020 6:36 p.m. PST |
>>Right you are – it was a mixture, so ShaT 1984 is creating another myth. Well thanks for the assault.
Actually it was debated here from 'all shakos' to 'no shakos but mitres' and in between. Short memories or lousy searches? And it was the English publications myth of all '1805 shakos' worn because the regulations said so, I was denying, thanks for asking. Somewhere in the debates it was claimed, unsourced, that only mitres had been retrieved as souvenirs after the battle? There were lists produced of which units had and hadn't converted headgear- units that weren't present in 1805 aren't relevant. Haven't yet seen any statement alluding to "Prussian" confirmation. I didn't realise they allowed Russians on their soil at that time. I'll paint what I want based on the supposed definitive lists and leave it at that. |
| Prince of Essling | 24 Oct 2020 2:45 a.m. PST |
@SHaT1984 – certainly no assault was intended on you. The discussions I recall were on which regiment wore the mitre and which the shako. |
ponders nirvana.