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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian28 Sep 2020 6:10 p.m. PST

In 1745, Prince Charles Edward Stuart led a Jacobite rebellion in an attempt to restore his father to the throne. Some accounts claim that in the course of the rebellion, Prince Charles was initiated into a secret society. What do you think?

* Prince Charles was initiated into Freemasonry
* Prince Charles was initiated into the Templars
* Prince Charles never joined a secret society

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 7:00 p.m. PST

I thought he escaped to Oak Island and buried the Templar treasure there.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 7:09 p.m. PST

Of course he was. Wasn't everybody?

Gray Bear28 Sep 2020 7:12 p.m. PST

The Old Pretender spent much of his time in Rome and Prince Charles was born there. The Oak Island Treasure seekers, the Lagina brothers, are of Italian descent. The connections are clear and 79thPA is correct. NeedI say more?

Zephyr128 Sep 2020 7:52 p.m. PST

It's nice that he joined a masonry guild; It's always good to have a backup career in case your primary choice doesn't work out…

John Switzer Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 8:30 p.m. PST

There is some evidence that he had envisioned using Freemasonry in an attempt to regain the throne.
However, Prince Charles stated he was not associated with Freemasonry but that could be have been for other reasons.
I refer you to to Mackey's History of Freemasonry.

TGerritsen Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 9:14 p.m. PST

No, he charged quite handsomely for all his masonry.

nsolomon9928 Sep 2020 10:06 p.m. PST

I suppose the intent was to pick up some spending money for the London taverns doing stonemasonry oddjobs on the march south to glory?

Brownand29 Sep 2020 2:48 a.m. PST

He could build stone barricades very well?

LaserGrenadier Supporting Member of TMP29 Sep 2020 4:04 a.m. PST

His connections with the Illuminati are even more obscure.

Bob the Temple Builder29 Sep 2020 5:25 a.m. PST

For a long time, the Roman Catholic Church has been a persistent opponent of Freemasonry. For example, it has prohibited Roman Catholics from being Freemasons since the publication of ‘In eminenti apostolatus' in 1738, and this has been followed up several times by further prohibitions.

It is very unlikely that the Young Pretender was a member of the Brotherhood, although it played an important part in Scottish society.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP29 Sep 2020 5:53 a.m. PST

The more often a practice is condemned, the higher the probability that the practice is widespread.
Who is going to tell the Rightful King (or his heir) that he cannot be a Freemason? Such prohibitions are for peasants and the bourgeoisie. Not that they will pay any attention either.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP29 Sep 2020 5:55 a.m. PST

The Catholic Church also occasionally prohibited and condemned the Jesuits. That happened to my namesake, the first Bishop of the United States.

advocate05 Oct 2020 11:29 a.m. PST

Bishop the OFM?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2020 10:33 a.m. PST

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