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John the OFM28 Sep 2020 11:53 a.m. PST

I'm planning on running a campaign (collecting and painting a bunch of figures) based on the Burr Conspiracy.
Aaron Burr was … Aaron Burr. Needs no introduction.
James Wilkinson was Commanding General of the Army of the United States. He was also a contender for the most treasonous turncoat in history, rivaling Alcibiades and Simon Fraser.
Andrew Jackson despised both.
Throw in Spanish, Native Americans, British, Martians and Orcs.
I'm using Seminole figures for Creek. Knuckleduster Frontier militia and various generals in bicornes for The Lads.

Burr ultimately failed, due in no small part to forged (?) coded letters sent to Wilkinson. Jefferson pulled out all stops to convict Burr.
Oh, go look it up.

Anyway, I'm curious what the American army would look like in this period.
I went with Old Glory Mad Anthony Wayne figures, with a few head transplants.
However, they are 1795. War of 1812 is 1812.
What did the army in 1805 look like, and what figures would work?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 12:11 p.m. PST

There is this:

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The Legion uniform is appropriate for 1805.

Brechtel19828 Sep 2020 1:23 p.m. PST

From Rene Chartrand's A Most Warlike Appearance, 20-23:

'Uniform Distinctions, 1808-1810'

This uniform description is also valid for ca 1805.

'A regular US infantryman in 1808 wore the following uniform: black round hat with the brim edged with white worsted lace, a bearskin crest over the crown, and a white plume and a black cockade with a white metal eagle; dark blue coatee [short tails] with red collar and cuffs, lapels and turnbacks all edged with white piping; white waistcoat; white (in summer) or dark blue (in winter) 'overalls'; half gaiters; black shoes; stock and clasp and a white shirt. For fatigue, a linen frock and a pair of linen trousers were issued.'

'Some uniform variations must have occurred for the hats had no 'fan' cockades and it was not 'usual for the public [ie the government] to supply the bearskins for them.' The half gaiters were 'sent on white' but 'the soldiers paint and polish them themselves' which makes us believe they were black. Musicians had the same uniform but with the coatee in 'reversed' colors, red with dark blue collar, cuffs, lapels and turnbacks.'

'The uniform of the officers as of 1 July 1808, is described as follows: '…the coat blue to reach the bend of the knee; the cuffs lapelles [sic] and cape [collar] to be scarlet, the lapelle 5 inches wide at the top and 4 1/2 at the bottoms; the cape and cuffs 4 1/2 inches wide, the lining of the coat white-the vest and pantaloons white, the chapeau bras, with a white plain feather 14 inches long.Infantry officers wore silver epaulets, button and a red sash when on duty.'

'Artillery troops had essentially the same uniform as the infantry except that they had bicorne hats laced with yellow and long-tailed coats with red turnbacks, yellow lace and brass buttons. Artillery officers had gold buttons, epaulets, loace, sword hilts and belt-plates.'

Brechtel19828 Sep 2020 1:31 p.m. PST

Captain Winfield Scott was court-martialed and suspended for a year for openly criticizing Wilkinson. He correctly assessed Wilkinson's character, calling Wilkinson a 'traitor' as well as 'a liar and a scoundrel.'

Scott was correct on both counts.

John the OFM28 Sep 2020 2:19 p.m. PST

Theodore Roosevelt would agree.

Brechtel19828 Sep 2020 3:34 p.m. PST

Winfield Scott had to deal with Wilkinson first-hand…

charared30 Sep 2020 7:14 p.m. PST

GREAT TOPIC OFM!
Would like to see more detail on your thoughts on the Burr/Wilkinson "plot"…
I'm trying to work several Lewis and Clark "Corps of Discovery" scenes meeting with the Spanish forces Wilkinson
advised the Spanish gov't in Mexico were moving through the disputed Louisiana Territory.
Some of the "Corps" initially wore US Army uniforms to impress the natives, but soon reverted to buckskin and caps.

Interesting times to say the least!

Frontier fighting/exploring with an "Age of Reason" twist!

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