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27 Sep 2020 8:32 a.m. PST
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Sarge Joe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 7:16 a.m. PST

so n.c.o's are less?

Sarge Joe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 7:28 a.m. PST

come first served?

or by rank?

MajorB27 Sep 2020 11:09 a.m. PST

Sorry, don't understand the question

Sarge Joe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 12:30 p.m. PST

so first man coming in the hospital treatment
who is next can't be just offiers
survive depends on the wound?
just soldiers as wel hope they surviv are oficers?

more worth to operate survive

Sarge Joe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 12:39 p.m. PST

treatment in the hospital officers first?
before men

MajorB27 Sep 2020 12:43 p.m. PST
Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 1:48 p.m. PST

Please.

Please.

Put your question into your native Dutch language. Put it into Google translate. Copy the English translation It is never great, but it is far better than what we have here.

I am not insulting your English, as you said before, I promise you. I myself have only two or three words in the language of the nation I for which I have held a passport for 66 years. Irish Republic.

We want to help you. Folk here are terrific with free advice. But this is just impossible to follow.

Why are you asking this question also? We all know about triage in emergency medicine/surgery (me more than many) but why ask???

Personal logo SHaT1984 Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 2:53 p.m. PST

Settle down, you'll have a conniption….
;-0

Sarge Joe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 4:03 p.m. PST

this the result dead head so maybe this:: loses in one battle and etc.
who to operate first officers or others officers more privilege

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 6:00 p.m. PST

As MajorB pointed out, triage largely comes out of WWI. Larrey had his custom, but if there was any established priority system even on a national basis during the Napoleonic Wars, I've never seen a reference to it. I suspect a combination of "first come, first serve" "this man's dead: get him out of here" and "clear a space for the General!"

Mind you, most of the seriously wounded never made it to a hospital alive, and many of the others might arrive days after the battle.

Sarge Joe Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 1:36 a.m. PST

so when having two men same wound leg broken
first come, first serve
and clear a space for the General officer frst?

officer more worth then man?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 11:05 a.m. PST

I thought this thread was going to be about leadership.

Napoleonic triage was based on the severity of the wound and is documented in the French triage system.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 3:51 p.m. PST

In the French army at least wounded were, as noted correctly by 79th PA, on the basis of severity, not rank – I suppose on the off hand chance that two soldiers with identical wounds arrived at the same time the higher rank might get treated first but having worked in ER for 30 years this is very, very unlikely to happen

Baron Larrey was a man of principle; did not make him popular with the brass hats but saved a lot of lives

Now, in the case of the British, Russians and Austrians, I would suspect rank would make a difference

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2020 4:04 p.m. PST

All honor to Baron Larrey, but are we safe in generalizing from his practice to "the French?" Many French Napoleonic surgeons were "a long way from the flagpole" in modern Armyspeak, and the degree to which it's remarked on suggests how unusual his practice was.

Zephyr128 Sep 2020 9:05 p.m. PST

Might also depend on how well liked/loved the officer was… ;-)

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