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D6 Junkie22 Sep 2020 6:59 a.m. PST

I was perusing the Flames of War section at a local hobby store in Georgia. The employee, youngish 20s,is telling another shopper/gamer that Historical gamers are all snobs.

I figured that he was talking about some 'button counters' and jumped in and said, "we're not all snobs"

He looked at me and said "So I could run my blue tanks in your game? "

"Ah no" I answered

"See no creativity in historical gaming unlike 40k and fantasy" he lamented to his friend

I could not resist, "40k and fantasy Sigmar? You mean where hardly anyone paints their minis?"

"Well in tournaments they have to be painted" he quickly answered.

" So I guess that is why I see no tournaments at your store?"

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 7:06 a.m. PST

He's an idiot. Buy your Flames of War or Citadel paints and leave.

Ask him, if you must, what the point of blue or scarlet tanks is.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 7:08 a.m. PST

By the way, if you answer "We're not all snobs!" you're conceding the argument to him, and are fighting on his terms. Ask him why 40K armies look so stupid. grin

Ask him if he would be allowed to use a "blue tank" in a Dark Angels army, or a scarlet one in a Direwolves army.
Ask him if Orks can use Ultramarine … personnel carriers. Or Dark Eldar jet skis.

Legion 422 Sep 2020 7:46 a.m. PST

John … you make some good points … thumbs up

Also I still and never will paint my Sci-fi models in circus colors … 🤡🎪

cavcrazy22 Sep 2020 8:39 a.m. PST

I have never found any gamer to be a snob, historical or fantasy. That being said I am a historical gamer and have no interest in the fantasy games….Wow, maybe I'm the snob?
Time to reflect upon ones self.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian22 Sep 2020 8:46 a.m. PST

If insisting figures in a game I am putting on be painted, consider me a snob.

BTW – I would think early war British tanks in a Caunter scheme count as blue.

M1Fanboy22 Sep 2020 9:14 a.m. PST

And this is why I don't as a matter of course engage 40K gamers. When many of them don't even paint their armies? What's the point of discussing the finer points of what colors to paint one's armies?

Dagwood22 Sep 2020 9:31 a.m. PST

Apparently the Caunter scheme didn't contain blue. There was a recent post here which suggested it was a mistake by some museum that has been propagated over the years.

What me ? A rivet counter ? Never !

Well, perhaps a bit …

But the Caunter scheme should be colourful enough for anyone !

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 9:39 a.m. PST

I have known Caunter discussions to turn violent in a matter of seconds. "Blue" is a trigger word.
I'm just glad that I don't have to paint my Honeys in Caunter for Gazala. I ran out of Light Medium Stone.

If you want colorful, do German Great War aeroplanes. A pink DVII!

Perris070722 Sep 2020 10:41 a.m. PST

Real German men flew RED planes.

von Schwartz22 Sep 2020 11:28 a.m. PST

@McKinstry
If insisting figures in a game I am putting on be painted, consider me a snob.

+1

Hey, you say you want color?!?! Try pretty much any European army from 1700 to 1815.
Even worse, try a few 15th-16th century Swiss or Landsknecht pike blocks.
I got yer color right HERE!!!

Snob indeed…I waggle my pinky in your visage!!

Brian Smaller22 Sep 2020 11:36 a.m. PST

Well I did once see an Italian WW2 army where the tanks were all painted Ferrari red. And I had a Pink Panther. So no, we are not all snobs.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 11:36 a.m. PST

OFM, blue tanks are for the good guys, red ones are for the bad ones, and pink ones are for the militant pacifists.

I thought everyone knew that.

In this case, wear snobbery as a badge of honor.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Sep 2020 12:12 p.m. PST

Some gamers are snobs. Because gamers are human, and some humans are snobs.

But most gamers are nice guys.

Sajiro22 Sep 2020 12:18 p.m. PST

I have a pink Panther. It drives my Armor officer friends crazy, but my daughter loves it.

Microbiggie22 Sep 2020 12:23 p.m. PST

Mike, I hope that wasn't at Gigabites. Of course I've had FoW players call me a snob, because I play historical WWII scenarios, so there's that.
Mark

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 1:04 p.m. PST

You want color, India is good at that.

link

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 1:44 p.m. PST

See no creativity in historical gaming unlike 40k and fantasy

40K is the least creative game I've seen. Well, at least tournament, sanctioned 40K.

Even outside that, there are a ton of assumptions that go with 40K. 40K has strict colour schemes for factions, as noted above.

But at a deeper level, who fields a contingent of Orks with a Space Marine force (other than me, I mean)? What historical force did not recruit and field other "factions" in their forces at one time or another? even former/future enemies? … sorry … especially former/future enemies?

You should go back to the store on 40K day and face the employee with a SM force that has a (DKOK) Commissar command unit and uses Tau vehicles to deploy Ork shock troops. Oh, yeah, that new Necro sniper dude, too.

There's your blue tank.

D6 Junkie22 Sep 2020 2:01 p.m. PST

Not giga but the other store nearby a bit further north

Chuckaroobob22 Sep 2020 4:11 p.m. PST

I met a snob War$ Fantasy player who disparaged 40k as "Warhammer Lite"

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2020 5:50 p.m. PST

"Fantasy. Where everything's made up and the points don't matter."
grin

Festerfest22 Sep 2020 6:26 p.m. PST

Oh just ignore the peasantry, wave them off with your lace handkerchief and have another pinch of snuff.

Leadjunky22 Sep 2020 7:40 p.m. PST

I guess I am kind of a gaming snob. I like figures to be painted, at least decent looking terrain, and rules to at least somewhat represent the period and tactics. Scenario over points as well. See…. snob. 😁

The Tin Dictator22 Sep 2020 9:07 p.m. PST

I'm a historical gamer.
I require that any figure in a game on my table be painted.
If its not painted, it sits on the sideline.
And the paint job should at least attempt to be historical.

Its not snobbish to expect these things.
If you think it is, because you can't be bothered, then you're the one being the twit.

McWong7323 Sep 2020 3:07 a.m. PST

That was a good comeback about the tournaments D6.

snurl123 Sep 2020 3:22 a.m. PST

I like Fantasy and Historical gaming. Painted and assembled, please.

Legion 423 Sep 2020 9:36 a.m. PST

A Pink & Purple Panzer Mk.V Panther ?!?!??!? 😦😧😨😱🤯🤡

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2020 1:59 p.m. PST

There's a big difference between authenticity and snobbery.

Wargamer Blue23 Sep 2020 7:20 p.m. PST

I'm glad those types stay out of historical gaming.

Jeffers24 Sep 2020 1:55 a.m. PST

I have:

A bright yellow T26
A gold KV1
A pink Matilda 2
A pink, purple and lime green Tiger

All painted by my daughter. For display only, of course!

Volleyfire24 Sep 2020 10:34 a.m. PST

Oh just ignore the peasantry, wave them off with your lace handkerchief and have another pinch of snuff.

And don't forget to take your silver topped cane to rap on the counter with in order to gain the lackeys attention!!

Wolfhag Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2020 1:44 p.m. PST

I have a friend that claims to be a "game bigot". He only plays games he's designed. The problem is that they are pretty good so I play his game and ignore him.

Wolfhag

Yesthatphil24 Sep 2020 1:59 p.m. PST

Like the OFM said, he's an idiot.

There's not a lot of point in disecting that (all the evidence points to him being an idiot, including arguing with a customer rather than apologising for being rude)

Just don't shop there.

Phil

Legion 425 Sep 2020 9:13 a.m. PST

A bright yellow T26
A gold KV1
A pink Matilda 2
A pink, purple and lime green Tiger
They could be used for 40K ! evil grin They'd fit right in !

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2020 7:45 p.m. PST

" A bright yellow T26
A gold KV1
A pink Matilda 2
A pink, purple and lime green Tiger"

And a partridge in a pear tree.

Legion 426 Sep 2020 10:28 a.m. PST

What size main gun does a partridge have ? 🤔

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