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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2020 8:54 p.m. PST

…ever told?.

"Long ago, four giant beings arrived in southeast Australia. Three strode out to other parts of the continent, but one crouched in place. His body transformed into a volcano called Budj Bim, and his teeth became the lava the volcano spat out.

Now, scientists say this taleŚtold by the Aboriginal Gunditjmara people of the areaŚmay have some basis in fact. About 37,000 years ago, Budj Bim and another nearby volcano formed through a rapid series of eruptions, new evidence reveals, suggesting the legend may be the oldest story still being told today.

The study raises a provocative possibility, says Sean Ulm, an archaeologist at James Cook University, Cairns, who was not involved with the work. "It is an interesting proposition to think about these traditions extending for tens of thousands of years." But he and others urge caution, as no other stories passed down orally are believed to have survived that long…"
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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2020 12:44 p.m. PST

Nick Zentner has a YouTube channel based on geology. I just wish some of my college teachers were as interesting as him.
Here's one of his lectures on "Dating the Ice Age Floods".
YouTube link
I had never heard of the Ice Age Floods until I got hooked on his videos. Here he speculates briefly on whether early Native Americans had witnessed them. I think the last one was 11,000 BC.

One of his "Nick on the Fly" videos features Randy Lewis, a Native American tribal … wise man? whose oral tradition has his people fleeing just such a flood.
YouTube link

I hope it's true.

Nick calls Washington State "Disneyland for geologists", and his series sure backs him up. I never knew geology could be so interesting.
"What does this have to do with miniature wargaming?"
Why time travel, of course! Pulp! When CGI is expensive but time travel is cheap!

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2020 9:04 p.m. PST

@John the OFM: Thanks. I look forward to watching The Zentner lectures.

@Tango: Thanks. That is a fascinating story about a story.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2020 11:44 a.m. PST

Thanks John!…


Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2020 11:44 a.m. PST

Here's a quickie from Nick, on Dry Falls Washington.
The animation is superb, and should explain why some parts of Eastern Washington are called "scablands".
YouTube link

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2020 6:31 p.m. PST

My wife and I fell asleep on the sofa with Professor Zentner's YouTube videos on -- no offense to the professor, because we were totally captivated by Dating Ice Age Floods. We just started watching a little too late in the evening.

We look forward to watching them a little earlier next time!

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2020 8:54 p.m. PST

I beg your pardon.
This is the Randy Lewis/Nick Zentner video where Randy goes back to the Ice Age Floods.
YouTube link

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2020 9:07 p.m. PST

I beg your pardon.
This is the Randy Lewis/Nick Zentner video where Randy goes back to the Ice Age Floods.
YouTube link

He's doing a live cast here. He is vamping for 13 minutes until it begins. Then, the magic begins.

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