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ciaphas15 Sep 2020 9:34 a.m. PST

I have searched in vain, for artillery and crew for the above. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
jon

ciaphas15 Sep 2020 9:34 a.m. PST

I have searched in vain, for artillery and crew for the above. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
jon

David O Brien15 Sep 2020 9:54 a.m. PST

link

They also have Polish.

nickinsomerset15 Sep 2020 10:05 a.m. PST

TAG,Old Glory,

Tally Ho!

jedburgh15 Sep 2020 10:19 a.m. PST

The League of Augsburg/Warfare Minitures have these forthcoming on their US site

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JanissaryAga15 Sep 2020 3:00 p.m. PST

I can endorse the Ottoman artillery crew from TAG. A great set. TAG's Polish line looks nice as well although I have not bought from it yet.

Personal logo D6 Junkie Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2020 6:15 p.m. PST

Brigade miniatures for Ottomans

Druzhina18 Sep 2020 2:08 a.m. PST

16th Century Ottoman artillery tend to be portrayed in a hat with a split brim with the points of the split extended as 4 points:

Suleiman the Magnificent and the Battle of Mohacs in 'Hünernâme' of 1588 by Lokman
Turkish cannoneer by Hans Weigel, 1577
Turkish artilleryman – Topçu by Cesare Vecellio, 1590
Topçu in Hans Sloan's Album, 'The Habits of the Grand Signor's Court' c.1620
These hats may start out stiff but become floppy in the weather.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Ottoman Costume & Soldiers

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Sep 2020 2:14 a.m. PST

Thanks for these. How good are the chances that these depictions of Mohacs show the equipment from 1526, rather then that of 1588?

Druzhina25 Sep 2020 5:49 a.m. PST
Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Sep 2020 12:04 a.m. PST

Thanks for these.

Especially the infantry (probably Janissary) look different in headgear and tunic. From a first glance the cavalry also lacks feathers. Any differences may be by the perception and execution of the painting by the artists, but I assume that these "Mohacs" images suffer from the same effect that contemporary western illustrations have, using equipment known to the artists rather then being authentic. I just wish one of the Ottoman or Persian artists would have created a depiction like Altdorfers "Alexanders battle".

When I do start to collect my Ottomans for the early Suleyman phase, I will aim for these rather then those shown in the Hünername – after checking some of its other depictions I see that the Janissaries depicted for Nikopolis look identical, which practially rules out any historical authenticity – its late 15th century equipment the Hünername shows.

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