"28mm Polish and Ottoman artillery" Topic

I have searched in vain, for artillery and crew for the above. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
jon

I have searched in vain, for artillery and crew for the above. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
jon

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They also have Polish.

TAG,Old Glory,

Tally Ho!

The League of Augsburg/Warfare Minitures have these forthcoming on their US site

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I can endorse the Ottoman artillery crew from TAG. A great set. TAG's Polish line looks nice as well although I have not bought from it yet.

Brigade miniatures for Ottomans

16th Century Ottoman artillery tend to be portrayed in a hat with a split brim with the points of the split extended as 4 points:

Suleiman the Magnificent and the Battle of Mohacs in 'Hünernâme' of 1588 by Lokman
Turkish cannoneer by Hans Weigel, 1577
Turkish artilleryman – Topçu by Cesare Vecellio, 1590
Topçu in Hans Sloan's Album, 'The Habits of the Grand Signor's Court' c.1620
These hats may start out stiff but become floppy in the weather.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Ottoman Costume & Soldiers

Thanks for these. How good are the chances that these depictions of Mohacs show the equipment from 1526, rather then that of 1588?

The Selīm-nāma by Şūkrī-i Bitlisī of c.1521-25 is closer to 1526.

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Selīm-nāma by Şūkrī-i Bitlisī of c.1521-25

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

Thanks for these.

Especially the infantry (probably Janissary) look different in headgear and tunic. From a first glance the cavalry also lacks feathers. Any differences may be by the perception and execution of the painting by the artists, but I assume that these "Mohacs" images suffer from the same effect that contemporary western illustrations have, using equipment known to the artists rather then being authentic. I just wish one of the Ottoman or Persian artists would have created a depiction like Altdorfers "Alexanders battle".

When I do start to collect my Ottomans for the early Suleyman phase, I will aim for these rather then those shown in the Hünername – after checking some of its other depictions I see that the Janissaries depicted for Nikopolis look identical, which practially rules out any historical authenticity – its late 15th century equipment the Hünername shows.

While not having as many figures as Altdorfer's "Alexanders battle", the Persian battle frescos in the main hall of the Chehel Sotoun in Isfahan are very large.

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Persian battle frescos in the main hall of the Chehel Sotoun in Isfahan

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers