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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2020 12:42 p.m. PST

"The state trials of the 57mm 2S38 Derivatsiya-PVO self-propelled anti-aircraft gun (SPAAG) are planned to be completed in 2022, the press office of the Uralvagonzavod Corporation told TASS. The Uralvagonzavod Corporation is a subsidiary of the Rostec state hi-tech corporation…"


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vicmagpa114 Sep 2020 1:37 p.m. PST

bringing back the 57mm.

arealdeadone14 Sep 2020 4:10 p.m. PST

So the Russians learned nothing from 30 years of western combat operations? AAA is useless against modern fighters, drones and cruise missiles.

You might be able to plink transport helos with them but smaller more mobile and more accurate MANPADS do the job better.

emckinney14 Sep 2020 11:27 p.m. PST

Well, the all-optical targeting system is hard to jam. Far harder than any radar or IR seeker.

Unless it's Mk. 1 Eyeball …

Skarper15 Sep 2020 1:13 a.m. PST

Having AAA with armoured units will however stop aircraft from taking liberties. The job of all AA is not to kill aircraft but to save ground units/targets.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2020 1:11 p.m. PST



arealdeadone15 Sep 2020 2:10 p.m. PST

Sharper except for 40 years NATO and the Israelis have owned the skies and even when the Russians deployed their high end system over Syria.

In all instances AAA has done nothing. Indeed AAA is largely gone from western service as a result.

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