Tassie | 11 Sep 2020 7:29 a.m. PST |
The farm of La Haie Sainte is now on the market for rent. There are some interesting photos of the interior of the main farmhouse, particularly the one which shows the passageway on the ground floor, with what could well be the original flagstones. Anyway, I thought it might be of interest . . . link |
deadhead | 11 Sep 2020 8:31 a.m. PST |
Absolutely fascinating. I had heard there was a cellar and sure enough, I see a door. I think there has been some modernising work since 1815 on the interior. It has been rented out for years I believe and it is a long time since it was home to any farmer. The result is a dream house without a doubt, but such a shame that what is of international importance was not bought by the state and opened up to the public decades ago. Surely, like Hgmnt, it would have attracted enough paying visitors |
d88mm1940 | 11 Sep 2020 8:51 a.m. PST |
I see at least 2 rooms suitable for wargaming. But only one garage! Deal breaker for me… |
Dave Jackson | 11 Sep 2020 9:34 a.m. PST |
as a friend of mine said….nice place…but you get thrown out in the afternoon…. |
Widowson | 11 Sep 2020 10:20 a.m. PST |
I don't see any pictures on the ad. It certainly would be an interesting place to live. |
Dave Jackson | 11 Sep 2020 11:49 a.m. PST |
On the page when it comes up… You should see an exterior shot of the farm …and some arrows…right and left? Scroll using those arrows. |
svsavory | 11 Sep 2020 2:12 p.m. PST |
Very interesting, thanks for sharing this! |
Artilleryman | 11 Sep 2020 2:49 p.m. PST |
Who knew it looked so nice inside. Fascinating. |
Legionarius | 11 Sep 2020 5:52 p.m. PST |
Is it haunted? Many people died defending or trying to take the place… |
AussieAndy | 12 Sep 2020 2:18 a.m. PST |
I don't think that you would have to believe in ghosts in order to be a bit uncomfortable living In a place where so many people died. |
svsavory | 13 Sep 2020 9:06 a.m. PST |
FYI, I shared the original link in a Napoleonic FB group. Some very knowledgeable folks there have determined that the property in question is not La Haie Saint. Rather, it's a more modern farm located much further east, in the vicinity of where Marbot's 7th Hussars skirmished with von Schwerin's Prussians on their approach to the battle. |
Handlebarbleep | 13 Sep 2020 11:25 a.m. PST |
If that is LHS, then there has been some prettiy impressive work done sunce I was lat there, like turning the barn around and moving/planting a few mature trees. They also managed to stop the ground from sloping. |
deadhead | 13 Sep 2020 12:26 p.m. PST |
Talk about false news in this pre US election day and age. Totally wrong. Sorry. This IS La Haye (Haie) Sainte. There are few exterior images here, but all, but one, show the north aspect of the farm, with the little outbuilding, the purpose I once imagined as essential for convenience, but maybe too big for that….and there is quite an original slope actually (surprisingly) Only one shows the courtyard. Let me be clear. There is no image of the Great Barn here. There is also no image of the west perimeter. You are seeing the north face of the farmhouse (the escape route of the KGL towards friendly lines) with a red roofed shed next to it. Do not mistake that for the courtyard…easily done. The Canadian lady must have moved out. It is up for rent again. |
dantheman | 13 Sep 2020 2:13 p.m. PST |
Definitely not LHS based on the photos alone, as well as the location in the heading. Says it was built in 1918 though construction style does look older. |
4th Cuirassier | 13 Sep 2020 5:21 p.m. PST |
I think it is La Haie Sainte. Type "La Haie Sainte" into Google. Click on "See outside" just to the right of the first result. You're now facing north on the Brussels road with La Haie Sainte on your left. Click on the white van coming towards you. Then pan 90 degrees left. That's the building in the rental agency photos. Recognition points: count the number of dormer windows. Look at the number and position of the chimneys. Look east from the road to see the same view across fields that you see in the second photo. It's La Haie Sainte. Next, try Google Earth. Type "Google Earth" into Google, click on the first link to launch it, then type "La Haie Sainte" into the search field on the left (the magnifying glass). Zoom in. Look at the shape of the grass in the north-east corner of the farmyard, and at the positions of the trees. They're the same. That is La Haie Sainte. It is interesting that's what's up for grabs obviously excludes the western building and the southern great barn. If they were in the deal they'd be in the photos. |
Tassie | 13 Sep 2020 10:56 p.m. PST |
Dantheman, Did you read the property description? "Ferme historique située sur le site du champ de bataille de Waterloo, sur le côté ouest de la route N5 reliant Bruxelles à Charleroi. Cette propriété constitua le centre du dispositif défensif de l'armée de Wellington lors de la Bataille de Waterloo en 1815." It's La Haie Sainte. |
Tassie | 13 Sep 2020 11:05 p.m. PST |
Also from the agent's property description: the property includes stables, a cowshed and a barn, as well as a vast courtyard. "La ferme est constituée d'un corps d'habitation de ± 440 m² sur un terrain de ± 69 ares, constituées d'écuries, d'une étable et d'une grange pouvant être convertie en garages, le tout encadrant une vaste cour." It's La Haie Sainte. Come on guys, don't just look at the photos! |
4th Cuirassier | 14 Sep 2020 2:45 a.m. PST |
3500 euros a month ($4,150) for 4,700 square feet of Waterloo, 12 miles south of Brussels. That seems quite reasonable. |
Supreme Littleness Designs | 14 Sep 2020 5:50 a.m. PST |
I would have thought that picture 4 would have caused more excitement as it's a first chance for some of us to see the passage through the house that was the only way of retreat for Baring's men. During the withdraw there was vicious fighting in this corridor. The door opens out into the kitchen garden. Those doubtful of a slope have only to look at the back door on the left in picture 2, which is at ground level. This is the door in picture 4. The passage runs through to the front door on the right in picture 1, which has steps down to ground level. There is your slope. Something I've had to take into consideration when designing a model of the farm. Anyone still doubtful of what they are looking at – including "some very knowledgeable folks" – should note that the square planters seen in pictures 2 and 13 have been in La Haie Sainte's kitchen garden for some time now. Or maybe they travelled from another farmhouse on their own. |
Camcleod | 14 Sep 2020 8:14 a.m. PST |
Interesting, you don't find too many good pics of the north side of the LHS main house and kitchen garden. This fills in a few gaps as to what the buildings actually look like. Wish they had included some more pics of the courtyard. |
4th Cuirassier | 30 Sep 2020 11:11 a.m. PST |
It's still available. I'd be tempted to scrape a bit of paint off the outside to see what colour the oldest layer was. It's about time we settled this. I see they've updated the kitchen since 1815. Didn't notice that before. |
plutarch 64 | 30 Sep 2020 1:04 p.m. PST |
I wonder if there are any of the 1815 roof tiles lying around in the loft, as that would settle another discussion. I'm still backing slate grey. If it's not La Haie Sainte, then this is definitely false advertising: 'Cette propriété constitua le centre du dispositif défensif de l'armée de Wellington lors de la Bataille de Waterloo en 1815.' |