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ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 9:10 a.m. PST

So what do you folks use to seal and finish your figures? I've used Testor's Dullcote spray for many, many years and have been very happy with it. But it is getting hard to find these day, not sure why. I've tried other spray-on matt varnishes but none of them seem to work as well and a few have been disastrously bad.

So what would you recommend?

Garand08 Sep 2020 9:19 a.m. PST

In terms of Testors, Rustoleum announced they are killing much of the Testors line. I am not sure what will still be around, probably the little square bottles & associated hobby products with that. But the MM line & MM Acryl lines are getting killed.

I use either Krylon flat clear, or use Tamiya Acrylics flat base mixed with Tamiya Gloss Clear (this is the proper way to use it!) thinned with lacquer thinner & sprayed through my airbrush.

Damon.

Fat Wally08 Sep 2020 9:47 a.m. PST

Windsor and Newton Professional Matt spray varnish.

Night Owl III08 Sep 2020 10:02 a.m. PST

I've found the brush on works just as well if you can find it and a bottle of this will probably last for years.

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Big Red Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 10:16 a.m. PST

Windsor and Newton Professional Matt Varnish. Used Dullcoat for decades but W&N has it beat hands down. Got mine at Blicks.

rmaker08 Sep 2020 10:56 a.m. PST

I use Ceramcoat brush-on. Works fine.

NOLA Chris Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 11:26 a.m. PST

Floquil brush on

leidang Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 11:28 a.m. PST

Regular testor's dullcote is the same formula as the Model Master's version.

AFAIK they are not killing off Dullcote just the Model MAster's brand.

jdpintex08 Sep 2020 11:30 a.m. PST

Windsor and Newton Professional Matt Varnish.

If I can't find W&N, then I use Krylon UV-Resistant Clear Acrylic Coating (Matte). Although I also use this on terrain as it is cheaper than W&N.

Stew art Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 11:34 a.m. PST

I've been using vallejo Mat varnish and I think it works well.

45thdiv Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 12:14 p.m. PST

Aquanet super hold hairspray. I have been using this for 30 years now. No paint chips and no discoloring over time.

14Bore08 Sep 2020 12:22 p.m. PST

Yeah always use to use Dullcote but it's hard to find, have been using Krylon flat spray.

joeltks08 Sep 2020 12:25 p.m. PST

Another for Windsor and Newton Professional Matt Varnish.

MajorB08 Sep 2020 12:44 p.m. PST

I just use acrylic paint (Coat d'Arms) that is naturally matt. No need for any sort of varnish or or other finish.

Major Thom08 Sep 2020 1:42 p.m. PST

I was using Testor's Dullcote, now I am using Tamiya Clear Flat.

Zephyr108 Sep 2020 1:44 p.m. PST

I prefer Dullcote, but use acrylic matte varnish on the cheaper (Bones) minis. I'm still skeptical of using brush-on, though, as I worry about the varnish sticking to other surfaces/minis (even after dry), so I use it thinned down…

John Leahy08 Sep 2020 2:19 p.m. PST

Totally agree with Windsor and Newton Professional matte spray. Plus you can use a Hobby Lobby 40% off coupon to buy it. I'm an old Dullcote user. It doesn't get close to being as flat as Windsor Newton.

Thanks

John

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 3:09 p.m. PST

I use Xtracolor XDFF brush on, and on occasion if it dries a bit gloss use a coat of Lahmian Medium from GW.

Syrinx008 Sep 2020 4:08 p.m. PST

Yet another for Windsor and Newton Professional Matt Varnish. I mix W&N Galeria Matt varnish with Tamiya flat base when I use my airbrush but for a ready to go can, the W&N Professional Matt varnish is the best matt I have used.

cfielitz08 Sep 2020 5:49 p.m. PST

I like Krylon's matt spray. Seems to work as well as Dull Cote does and much cheaper.

jwebster Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 8:39 p.m. PST

Part of my justification for an airbrush was so that I could stop using rattle cans

I think varnish is important to protect minis. I use ink washes a lot, so a good matt finish is important. A decent flat matt will required gloss or satin varnish to add gloss back to weapons, armour, etc.

I have had the best results with Vallejo Premium 62.062 (polyurethane), but it's a little hard to get hold of, hobbylinkc usually has it. Unless they've changed it, it is not correctly labeled for sale in California

Vallejo polyurethane matt varnish 27.651 is nearly as good, bought a big bottle from my LGS. It's pretty thick but airbrushes very well without dilution for some reason

Airbrushing liquid varnish would be very economical if I didn't keep knocking over the bottles.

Haven't tried any other varnishes (other than dullcote in cans), but have never heard anyone say anything bad about the Windsor and Newton

John

Blackhorse MP09 Sep 2020 4:43 a.m. PST

Count me as another of the Winsor & Newton faithful. I used to swear by Dullcote until I saw people talking about W & N here, so I gave it a try. I was stunned. Flattest varnish evah!

Give it a try, you won't be sorry.


p.s. There's no "d" in Winsor.grin

Thomas O09 Sep 2020 5:50 a.m. PST

Krylon flat matt spray is my preferred, I have also used Rustoleum Dead Flat and it is my 2nd choice for figures. For terrain I have been using High Hold hair spray, seems to work well is cheap (go to the Dollar Store).

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2020 5:59 a.m. PST

Dullcote is my go to, has been for decades. I buy off Amazon, no problems sourcing yet.

bjporter09 Sep 2020 7:36 a.m. PST

I contacted Testors directly and the representatives that responded to my emails confirmed that they are NOT discontinuing Glosscote or Dullcote.

Very shortly after the Hobby Lobby finally got a restock of both. Presumably the recent shortages are related to supply and demand and the virus.

When I couldn't find Dullcote, I did try the Windsor Newton Professional. It is extremely flat, which is nice. I got a few small raised spots on some figures. I think it was splatter of some sort. I was able to carefully pick it off of a few figures and had to touch up a few others.

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