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von Schwartz06 Sep 2020 4:50 p.m. PST

OK, so now that we've found where I can get some good 15MM minis, does anyone have some good suggestions for rules, suitable for solo as well as multi-player. I have done this period before many many many years ago, I used to use a really nice easy set called "Tercio", sadly now out of print. Easy to read, easy to use, and it had nice lists at the back for OOB for various armies. I had done research and the lists seemed to be fairly accurate in terms of proportions, i.e. infantry vs cavalry vs artillery. Any ideas out there?

advocate06 Sep 2020 11:57 p.m. PST

By Fire and Sword is what we use. Quite detailed though, and not cheap.

parrskool Supporting Member of TMP07 Sep 2020 2:22 a.m. PST

Neil Thomas Rules : either One Hour Wargames or Introduction to Wargaming

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP07 Sep 2020 2:40 a.m. PST

Here you go Von Schwartz.
PDF link

Free basic rules PDF version of Tercios

Full version still availailable from On Military Matters
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Here are some AAR/reviews of the rules, if you look on the net there are more.
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coopman07 Sep 2020 11:09 a.m. PST

Were there any tercios in the 1800's?

Anton Ryzbak07 Sep 2020 11:45 a.m. PST

Those Tercio rules (not the old TTG ones) are excellent, we have been using them in our Imaginations campaign for the last eighteen months and they play fast and give realistic results https://epicureanwars.blogspot.com

coopman,

The Spanish may have still been using the name "Tercio" in unit titles but by the 1800s they were using a three-deep infantry line like most of the rest of Europe.

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP07 Sep 2020 1:19 p.m. PST

My bad, I didn't notice the 19th century discussion. I just saw Tercios and posted that. That seems an odd title for a 19th century game. Although it also is attached to Renaissance, so which is it Von Schwartz? Renaissance or 19th century?

von Schwartz07 Sep 2020 3:21 p.m. PST

Bashy, I crossposted by mistake, should've been Renaissance

von Schwartz07 Sep 2020 3:38 p.m. PST

What I am looking for is a good uncomplicated set of rules for pike and shot/Renaissance. I had referenced "Tercio" because that was the name of the rule set I had used previously (Anton, it might've been TTG I don't recall). I really enjoyed them, they were fairly simple and uncomplicated, and they had really nice Army lists in the back.

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP07 Sep 2020 6:41 p.m. PST

Well read that PDF, those rules fit the bill nicely. I use the full edition rules in my games and like them a lot.

Olivero Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 11:12 a.m. PST

Well, there are the usual suspects for Renaissance Wargaming…
For solo play the Piquet gaming system is mentioned every now and then (eg here: link and the Italian Wars supplement for Furioso have 2-3 pages of solo rules included… link

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2020 4:40 p.m. PST

Von Schwartz here is a Blog that covers the majority of rules used for what you are after, Olivero suggested Piquet, I have not played those but lots of people like them as well.

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Amazon has the 5th edition of TTG Tercios rules listed which I suspect is what you used to play. It is a used set and it is priced fairly high.

GunDogMiniature Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2020 5:23 a.m. PST

DBR

von Schwartz13 Sep 2020 5:59 p.m. PST

Good ideas all, I will be checking them out, thank you.

von Schwartz13 Sep 2020 6:03 p.m. PST

@Bashytubits
Amazon has the 5th edition of TTG Tercios rules listed which I suspect is what you used to play. It is a used set and it is priced fairly high.
I know, I saw those!!! Fricking ridiculous, I paid less than $20 USD new! Of course that was back when we had to wait for the Wells Fargo stagecoach to come into town.

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