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EtheVo02 Sep 2020 12:29 p.m. PST

This may be splitting hairs but I'm working on Russian Volhynie Uhlans. Osprey and Nafziger contradict a bit on Czapska/cords, (fringeless) epaulettes and pennon colors but both mention yellow. Of course yellow can be the color of a lemon or in the case of buttons (and sometimes Russian epaulettes) yellow can also mean a brass like shade. Of course images on the internet sometimes show lemon-yellow cords but brass like epaulettes. So in summary I'm tied up in a knot and can't decide. Anyone with good info on yellow for Russian Uhlans?

Attalus I02 Sep 2020 12:46 p.m. PST

I've found this page helpful: link

It appears yellow is yellow, while other shades of yellow for units are named.

Prince of Essling05 Sep 2020 3:57 a.m. PST

See Viskovatov (Volume 11 mainly coloured illustrations) PDF link
Mark Conrad's translation at link
Below are the illustration numbers for Volhynia:.
1545. Private and Field-grade Officer. Volhynia Lancer Regiment. 1808-1811.
post Napoleonic:
1563. Field-grade Officer. Volhynia Lancer Regiment. 1818 and 1819.
1564. Soldier's and Officer's Shapka Headdresses. Volhynia Lancer Regiment. 1818 and 1819.
Selective extract from the text:
29 April 1807 The newly established Horse-Volhynia Regiment is prescribed all the same uniform items, accoutrements, and weapons as THE TSESAREVICH'S Lancer Regiment, except with raspberry instead of scarlet, with white lace sewn on the coats of trumpeters instead of yellow, and without lace-bars on the collar and cuffs (217)

5 August 1808 The following uniform colors are confirmed for Lancer regiments.
For the Volhynia Lancers blue collar with raspberry piping; raspberry lapels and cuffs; yellow buttons, blue headdress; raspberry trim on pants and shabrack; in the 1st Battalion yellow top half to the pennon, with a narrow white stripe, and a white lower half, with a narrow yellow stripe; in the 2nd yellow upper half to the pennon, with a narrow raspberry stripe, and a raspberry lower half, with a narrow yellow stripe (Illus. 1545).

Jackets, pants, belts, and saddlecloths in all five regiments are left blue, as before, while the grey greatcoats have tabs and shoulder straps the same colour as the jacket collar. Beginning at this time, the tops of lower ranks' shapka headdresses are lined with black leather for strength, and the feather plumes are replaced by hair plumes, of the same style as used at this time by hussars. Officers' headdresses are ordered to have only one chinstrap, with metal fittings (the same colour as the buttons), in the form of a small chain (Illus. 1546), while non-commissioned officers and privates, including trumpeters, are to have two straps, with fittings of the very same colour, but in the form of scales (Illus. 1546) (221).

EtheVo16 Sep 2020 5:39 a.m. PST

This is brilliant, thanks!

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