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KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2020 10:54 a.m. PST

I I have a very large collection of 15's I was gifted (French, Russian, British and Prussian) organized for Napoleons Battles/Age of Eagles scale games.

I would like to try to see if I could adapt Crusaders Rank and File rules to play with, though still using the larger scale. R&F says scale can vary from 50 to 250 men per stand, so my question is does anyone have any thoughts on up scaling to say 400 to 500 men per stand to be in line with the scale of Napoleons Battles or Age of Eagles?

Rank and File does not state any ground scale, but I'm looking at around 16" equal to one mile, with units as brigades/large regiments for maneuver.

Any suggestions appreciated.



Personal logo COL Scott ret Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2020 9:03 p.m. PST

Kim, sounds like a great gift. I do not have enough info on any of those rules – but I am sure other friendly and helpful TMPers will.

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2020 2:39 a.m. PST

Have a look at March Attack, it tends to aim for a higher number per base. Still a good set of rules.

Rank and File is an excellent set of rules but is regimental/brigade level. It lacks a formal command and control mechanism whereas March Attack or even Balance of Power can deal with higher ratios.

I rate Rank and File and play them a lot, but I think they may not be what you seek.


Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2020 8:24 a.m. PST

korsun0 take a +1

I use Rank and File pretty exclusively but they're designed for a level of play where you use multi-base battalions.

You're looking at a stand equaling a battalion. So that's something like March Attack or maybe the Polemos rules (forget the 6 v 15mm stuff. A base is a base is a base)

KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2020 9:39 a.m. PST


I looked at March Attack, but even that is not the scale I want to go to. They show a sample game of the Advance on Placenoit scenario, but I have the entire armies for Waterloo and want to do that, not just a scenario from a battle (I also have all the armies for Borodino too).

Balance of Power looks more geared to Franco-Prussian War, but both sets are still the infantry battalion as the base unit.

As far as "command and control" rules, I detest them and find they are arbitrary and capricious and really do no represent anything, and only serve to slow games down from my point of view, so not having them is good for me.

I just like the game mechanics of Rank and File, but I want to fight full scale battles, not scenario's and want to up the scale with turns representing 40-45 minutes.

I'll take a look at the Polemos rules too, thanks.


bgbboogie03 Sep 2020 12:21 a.m. PST

best rules are always your own there are just too many out there now.

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