Valderian | 30 Aug 2020 10:47 a.m. PST |
and a review of these minis and others link Have you played Command Horizon? Is it a good wargame? Have you painted some of the 6mm minis from EMP Games? |
Legion 4 | 30 Aug 2020 11:36 a.m. PST |
Nice work ! I've never played CH and have none of their models. |
Valderian | 30 Aug 2020 12:05 p.m. PST |
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Templar2 | 30 Aug 2020 2:53 p.m. PST |
Most of the items are listed as out of stock on both the Wargames Emporium and EMP website and no activity on the CH website for over a year and a half. I believe that the range is basically dead so third death for the CH range after Baccus and Gladiator Games.😢😢. Gerard |
Covert Walrus | 30 Aug 2020 10:50 p.m. PST |
That would be very sad to hear, Gerard. |
Valderian | 30 Aug 2020 11:57 p.m. PST |
@ Templar2 – yes, they mostly are, and some of the miniatures, unfortunately, for quite some time. I did not know that under EMP Games Command Horizon is at its third iteration. Has the range been improved since Gladiator Games? (now the range seems to be underdeveloped) And do you remember when they owned these miniatures or when it all started? |
Templar2 | 31 Aug 2020 4:46 a.m. PST |
Valderian, the original range was under Gladiator Games.😢 Hardkill, if you are a member of Taccom index, I refer you to an excellent topic from July 2011 comparing Gladiator to Baccus. The Gladiator range had a lot of items never released by Baccus such as an enginserting vehicle and a mole bore carrying vehicle both on the medium tank chassis. As you might know I am the sponsor for the SEM range, I contacted Gladiator way back aND sponsored the walker design, I was looking for a smaller version of the battletech Madcat and I used a Warhammer 40k chaos dreadnought heavily converted |
Templar2 | 31 Aug 2020 4:53 a.m. PST |
Baccus changed the infantry, I believe the original one was to close to Space Marine. I do not know the original date but woultimately be early 2000 that the Gladiator released the first Hardkill range. I really liked the range but felt it missed good infantry variety that is why I sponsored the SEM range, I combine the CH vehicles with SEM infantry Hope this help Valderian Regards Gerard |
Valderian | 31 Aug 2020 7:29 a.m. PST |
Many thanks for the comprehensive answer, Templar2! There are a lot of things I did not know and I'm glad I've asked. I have read the topic about Gladiator and Baccus. I got to make more time for reading others on Taccom! It was excellent. Sad to see so many interesting designs not available anymore on the market. Glad to see there was someone, that safeguarded the memory of them. Are there any similar sites? I went on Legions IV Hire's site to see the SEM minis and I also think you did a good job on sponsoring them. Are they available to a retailer somewhere in Europe? |
Templar2 | 31 Aug 2020 7:40 a.m. PST |
Valderian, Wargames Emporium used to carry them but PFC C-in-C as you can see in various thread is not very reliable, I think that our gracious host Bill would confirm this has he had very bad dealing with them in the past. Another European distributor was in Germany, Master of Military but do not know the status of their stock, again PFC not very reliable, but they have a complete listing of all released SEM (73 skus) and I have another 15 or so SKU nevery release. Regards Gerard |
Valderian | 31 Aug 2020 7:56 a.m. PST |
I went to the Masters of Military site, more for the WW2 miniatures. Did not know they stock sci-fi miniatures, because of the misleading webdesign… I think I will be a little bit bussy in the mid-future Thanks! |
Templar2 | 31 Aug 2020 8:33 a.m. PST |
Valderian, if you want to see a list of the unreleased SEM items, have a look at the TMP topic Pfc-cinc closing page 2 July 17 entry by Legion 4. I wish LegionsIVhire would take over the whole range of SEM so that I could work with Brian to complete the range Regards Gerard |
Valderian | 31 Aug 2020 9:19 a.m. PST |
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Legion 4 | 31 Aug 2020 9:44 a.m. PST |
I'll post the remaining SEM list here too. Maybe it will help motivate someone to get these made. Before I die of old age !😳😩😡 Armed civilians – irregulars 10 greens MARTHAK droids 5 castings Kanga wild Kanga with baggage Robot 1 Robot 2 Robot light walker Robot heavy walker Ga-Ule clan leader on throne [Felids] Ga-Ule civilians male female teen male teen female so 4 greens [Felids] Emperor on throne Emperor guards in beret Emperor guard Pretoria Newtonners 9 casts [big enhanced humans] Newtonners heavy weapons 3 or 4 Newtonners 8 legged lizard green Air crews 2 castings Ground crews 3 castings STARGATE [Not the TV/movie one] |
Valderian | 31 Aug 2020 1:25 p.m. PST |
I hope someone does! Only just from reading the names of the miniatures and they should be interesting to have. |
Legion 4 | 31 Aug 2020 3:33 p.m. PST |
Yes I've seen pics of the Greens … they are very cool!!! |
Templar2 | 04 Sep 2020 8:24 a.m. PST |
Valderian, Have you tried contacting EMP or Wargame Emporium to link them to your review and asked them of their plan for the CH range. Regards Gerard |
Valderian | 04 Sep 2020 1:37 p.m. PST |
No, but it is a good idea and I will do it. I want to make another order somewhen soon, and I hope they at least not erase this range, because they have few in stock items. |
Legion 4 | 04 Sep 2020 3:22 p.m. PST |
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Templar2 | 05 Sep 2020 4:14 p.m. PST |
Valderian Please inform us if you ever get an answer from EMP or Wargames Emporium Thanks & regards Gerard |
Templar2 | 19 Sep 2020 3:06 p.m. PST |
Valderian, Any update on Command Horizon? Regards Gerard |
Valderian | 20 Sep 2020 3:27 a.m. PST |
Hi Gerard, I got answer from EMP. They are planning a restock in the "near future", when this may be exactly, no one knows. I got a certain vibe that in the actual context, developing the range is not taken into consideration. Hope I am wrong, we will see. Regards, |
Legion 4 | 20 Sep 2020 8:53 a.m. PST |
Well … really not bad news ! |
johnskot | 10 Oct 2020 11:50 a.m. PST |
Hi all I'm John from EMP and Wargames Emporium. Really appreacite the people emailing and showing interest in Command Horizon and EMP in general. I have to say after a prominsing start we did drop the ball for various reasons, I will be glad to chat about that with anyone. In fact a podcast/youtube video might be good. We have started to put more effort in with EMP and stocks of Command Horizon will be arriving soon. We plan on releasing the full original CH range once all the current CH range is in stock. We found an integral part for the walking cities so will look at getting one or two of them out as I really love those models and we have been asked a number of times. Some new 6mm items will be added though I can't imagine these until the new year. Some will be generic 6mm sci-fi and some will fit into the rules we have. Rules wise we do have some ideas we have been working on though this is more long term. I am hoping that if we can build more momentum with EMP it will drive us on. You will see more 28mm stuff come through first as this does sell faster but this will help fund the 6mm. Any qustions please ask and thanks for keeping it nice, we should have posted on our website and FB. Sorry about that. john By the way I am mostly working in Mansfield at the moment due to being understaffed so feel free to pop in the shop for a chat or I can usually get into the Sheffield shop once a week. |
Templar2 | 10 Oct 2020 8:05 p.m. PST |
Outstanding news, one good news in this crazy covid year. The CH range is one of the best and offers a lot of variation and possibilities. Thanks for the update Gerard |
Valderian | 11 Oct 2020 2:26 a.m. PST |
Glad to read this! new in stock minis + new rules + point based system + random mission generator + fluff x 2 Are you planning on developing the story of Command Horizon? |
Legion 4 | 11 Oct 2020 7:44 a.m. PST |
The more options for 6mm Sci-fi the better. |
johnskot | 11 Oct 2020 8:39 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the positive comments, appreciated. We do like the story we of Command Horizon and have ideas the story could unfold, though getting miniatures in stock and then producing some new ones will take priority. |
Valderian | 11 Oct 2020 11:49 a.m. PST |
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Templar2 | 11 Oct 2020 12:02 p.m. PST |
Valderian Did you purchase the CH rulebook, well done, well illustrated and giving background for the 3 main races and is richly illustrated? If not recommend you get it, I have both the original and revised edition, well worth the price.😊 Regards Gerard |
Mad Mecha Guy | 13 Oct 2020 12:07 p.m. PST |
Just about remember doing the Walking Cities and other couple of races out of plasticard several years ago. |
johnskot | 16 Oct 2020 9:57 a.m. PST |
As these were a popular unit for a few scifi games I thought I would let you know the Hornet skimmers are now back in stock. link |
Valderian | 16 Oct 2020 10:03 a.m. PST |
Nice miniature, indeed! Thank you for this update. |
Covert Walrus | 16 Oct 2020 3:02 p.m. PST |
Good to hear! I loved the Centaur/Asori vehicles and infanrty as they had a trult "Non-humna' feel in styel and shape, yet recognizable technologically. |
Templar2 | 27 Oct 2020 12:20 p.m. PST |
Johnskot, Could you give us an update on how the restocking is going Thanks Gerard |
johnskot | 02 Nov 2020 11:42 a.m. PST |
As well as the Skimmers we did get 2 more restocks, sorry not surte which ones they were now. I have just emailed the caster to get the others when done sent to my house as deliveries during lockdown could be problem to the shop. When he replies there may be an update on delivery time. |
Templar2 | 02 Nov 2020 5:57 p.m. PST |
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Templar2 | 19 Nov 2020 4:56 p.m. PST |
Valderian, I have photos (not high quality taken with my tablet) of the items released by Gladiator but not released by either Bacchus or EMP. I can send you those photos if you send me an email at goyetteg1492@gmail.com Regards Gerard
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Valderian | 20 Nov 2020 12:40 p.m. PST |
Thank you, Gerard! I have just sent you an email. |
Templar2 | 20 Nov 2020 2:51 p.m. PST |
Valderian, Photos sent, did you receive them, 2 different emails 3 photos Gerard |
Valderian | 21 Nov 2020 8:15 a.m. PST |
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Templar2 | 21 Nov 2020 7:33 p.m. PST |
Johnskot, Someone on Taccom index sent me the original release list of Gladiator's HARDKILL range, if you are interested, send me an email at Goyetteg1492@gmail.com Regards Gerard Many thanks to Lyle from Australia, he graciously sent me this list I had lost in a recent move to a new house. |
johnskot | 06 Feb 2021 10:53 a.m. PST |
More restocks online Asori have had restocks. Also Raptor and Assault Walkers for the Human Alliance plus more Skim Fighters. Guardian Theta is back as well. |
Valderian | 07 Feb 2021 3:50 a.m. PST |
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Covert Walrus | 07 Mar 2021 6:14 p.m. PST |
Great! Legion 4, any news if someone has picked up production on the SEM figures? |
Templar2 | 08 Mar 2021 9:57 a.m. PST |
CW, I have been trying for the past 3 years to get Randy to produce the unreleased SEM but he is no longer answering me. I have tried to get Bryan at LegionIVHire to take over the range but he only want to distribute the range so I believe the range is dead. Bryan is currently distributing about 49 SKUs, you might want to contact him about the range future. Regards Gerard (Templar2) |
Legion 4 | 09 Mar 2021 11:00 a.m. PST |
At this point … that may be the only option. Which is very sad, very, very sad … as there are many very nice unreleased model. Too bad with all the people doing 3D printing, etc., out there no one can be found to pick up the remaining line … |
Valderian | 19 Apr 2021 5:55 a.m. PST |
Some new additions to my collection of Command Horizon:
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Templar2 | 19 Apr 2021 7:56 a.m. PST |
Great work Valderian. Thanks for your review, I always enjoy reading them. Johnskot, any news on the restocking or future of CH? Thanks and regards Gerard |
Legion 4 | 19 Apr 2021 7:57 a.m. PST |
Those are some ugly aliens !!!! |