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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Aug 2020 7:08 p.m. PST

On D-Day, the British landed on Gold Beach and Sword Beach. Which of these is more interesting in terms of wargaming?

deephorse28 Aug 2020 1:39 a.m. PST

Sword

Serge6928 Aug 2020 2:11 a.m. PST

Sword

Personal logo 4th Cuirassier Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2020 2:12 a.m. PST

All the British beaches were named after fish: Gold, Sword, Jelly. Churchill made them change the latter to Juno because he didn't want grief-stricken parents to learn later that their son died on Jelly beach.

No view on the main question, I've never done a D-Day game. The big question is when the German tanks should intervene and making that an option entails a deeper table than I'e ever had….

laretenue28 Aug 2020 5:06 a.m. PST

Sword. It offers you:

1. An opposed amphibious landing by an Inf Bde, supported by specialised armour.
2. Commandos a go-go on both flanks (including Kieffer's French, Lord Lovat and Piper Bill Millin should such extra colour tempt you).
3. An airborne drop on a flank to link up with.
4. The only intervention by German armour on D-Day

Gold, by contrast, has only the essential parts of (1) and (2) above. Bot beaches give you interesting German batteries to overcome.

Heedless Horseman Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2020 8:34 p.m. PST

Take a look at these vids?
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Some are archive material, but I definitely recommend the vids with presenters. Not always perfect in execution, but for a battlefield view, excellent!

Griefbringer30 Aug 2020 8:59 a.m. PST

How interesting can a Normandy beach assault be in the first place? Germans are sitting tight in their bunkers, while the assaulting forces crawl forward on the beach and gradually blow away the defending forces. There might be some nail-biting moments, but essentially it becomes a battle of attrition, with little room to manoeuvre or terrain to exploit.

Things get more exciting once the assaulting forces break beyond the beaches, where they can encounter both friendly paratroopers and German counter-attacks. In this sense the Sword beach area can be more dramatic, as 21st Panzer division managed to push quite far with their counter-attack.

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