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Ultima Thule27 Aug 2020 7:03 p.m. PST

We are planning on presenting The Battle of Mohács at a future convention along with my Siege of St Elmo's. Two very pivotal battles in Ottoman history.
In 1529 Suleiman the Magnificent invaded Hungary with the purpose of putting pressure on the Hapsburgs. With no help from Charles V the King of Hungary, King Louis II, mustered a force numbering around 30,000 consisting of old fashioned fully armored Gendarmes and mercenary Landsknechts. While the Turkish forces consisted of around 60,000 Janissaries armed with the latest firearms, feudal Timarli cavalry, conscripted levies from Rumelia and the Balkans and 300 cannons compared to the Hungarian 80. The Hungarian's deployed on an open field favoring their tactics and hoped to attack the Turkish forces piecemeal.
Below is a link to the pictures of the initial setup. I will add more pictures and a battle report after we play test this battle on Sunday.

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Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Aug 2020 7:40 a.m. PST

Interesting topic, and nice images!

BTW: 1526 – a typo, I assume.

1529 we have the siege of Vienna. A close affair, and a loss there would have been worse then 1683.

1532 we have the greatest battle between an Ottoman and a Western army looming, with some 120.000 on each side making a standoff. Suleyman was kept from a fast advance by an Hungarian fortress which enabled Charles to build up that army to the point that Suleyman opted not to put it to the test.
However, some 12.000 of his Acinci who devastated the area where cornered and half of them killed – the battle of the Steinfeld. Just if you ever want to do followups for the next years.

I just love that era. Looking forward to more infos and images!

Ultima Thule29 Aug 2020 9:13 a.m. PST

Thank you Puster and you are right 1526. I blame it on getting older …LOL!

JanissaryAga01 Sep 2020 9:43 a.m. PST

Excellent choices!! Ottoman-Habsburg wars have tons of opportunities for wargaming, but they seem to be neglected. If you need any assistance with research or finding sources for the Ottoman side I would be happy to help!

Nick Pasha01 Sep 2020 7:33 p.m. PST

I have run Mohacs several times in 15mm. Its a battle that should be fought in 15mm because you can field every unit in 20 to 1 scale and it looks awesome.

Ultima Thule02 Sep 2020 6:00 p.m. PST

Not sure if this will work but below is either a picture or a link to the best diagram of the troop dispositions I could find. Any help with exactly which units were Gendarmes or light horse on the Hungarian side or which are the Sipahis or light horse on the Ottoman side would be very appreciated. I had 3 Gendarmes units on the right flank of the first line and 3 units of light horse on the left. The second line had 4 units of Gendarmes surrounding the Hungarian pikes.
The sources I have read also differ on the type of fortifications the Turkish artillery used. I can find references to both wagons and chained cannon. Any help there also.

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