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26 Aug 2020 2:33 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "why use cuirasses if not bullit proof" to "why use cuirasses if not bulletproof?"

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Sarge Joe26 Aug 2020 9:17 a.m. PST

in each pistol bullit proof? saw one in musee d armee

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Frederick Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 9:53 a.m. PST

In theory- it kind of depends on how close and how big the bullet

Plus I think they were thought to confer an advantage in hand to hand

Personal logo Unlucky General Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 10:46 a.m. PST

Lance proof and sabre proof at any range would be enough for me to want to wear one. I think we need to be cautious about the definition of bullet-proof. At a given range it would have been proof against musketry and pistol shot more so than bare skin or clothing – so still an advantage.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 11:02 a.m. PST

I do believe that in a melee with your primary opponents-- with extremely long and extremely sharp blades slashing all about very close, where even an accidental mishap could prove very serious-- a metal covering to protect a persons major organs could prove to be very profitable and at least give some sense of security and comfort?
Russ Dunaway

14Bore26 Aug 2020 11:49 a.m. PST

I would think even musket proof at 50 yards possibly, and certainly sword proof.
It would be interesting to know what gauge the curass was and have a few shots at range at one.

Sarge Joe26 Aug 2020 11:53 a.m. PST

just pistol bullit cal 12? the new style French carbri did not like yhem

Korvessa26 Aug 2020 12:16 p.m. PST

Wasn't there an incident where it was determined that French cuirassiers (who had font & back plates) had a significant advantage over Austrians who only had front?

torokchar Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 12:23 p.m. PST

And they looked cool too……

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 1:19 p.m. PST

However, I would wager -- based on a few surviving examples -- that they would not do much to stop a cannonball ??

Russ Dunaway

RudyNelson26 Aug 2020 1:31 p.m. PST

I agree with those who point out the effectiveness against lances and blades. They would intimidate lighter cavalry and militia.

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 1:31 p.m. PST

A cavalryman wasn't worried about a musket ball – that was fired at his horse, a much bigger target. His problem was with the pistol of his commonest opponent, enemy cavalry. A good buff coat was considered proof against a sword but not against a pistol ball fired at close range in the melee.

MajorB26 Aug 2020 1:35 p.m. PST

Because they looked pretty!

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 3:14 p.m. PST

Isn't there a scene in the movie "Waterloo" where a young soldier is advised to aim for a cuirassier's armpit?

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 7:20 p.m. PST

Why not the face then ?

GROSSMAN Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2020 7:54 p.m. PST

I have seen the one with a cannon ball in the shoulder at the French army museum, kind of scary.

advocate27 Aug 2020 1:48 a.m. PST

"Did the Cuirassiers come up well at Waterloo?"
"Yes, and they went down well too".

Andrew Walters27 Aug 2020 8:11 a.m. PST

I'm sure they had a psychological effect on the wearer and the person they were skewering. That's not nothing.

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