Help support TMP


"Cultivated bacon could soon be a reality, as a company" Topic


17 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Utter Drivel Message Board


Areas of Interest

General

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Workbench Article

Crayola Bases for Trees

A simple way to make scenic bases.


Featured Profile Article

Living in China in the Time of Pneumonia

How is a China-based wargaming company getting by in the time of coronavirus?


Featured Book Review


361 hits since 6 Aug 2020
©1994-2020 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2020 3:21 p.m. PST

… readies its first tasing

"The cultivated meat maker Mission Barns is now offering consumers a chance to try its brand-new bacon grown from real pork fat cells, produced without animal slaughter. A group between 50 and 100 individuals will be selected for a weeklong tasting in mid-August to be carried out in selected restaurants.

Proteins cultivated in this way aren't available on the market anywhere yet, so this is an opportunity to find what meat grown from just a few cells tastes like…"

picture


Main page
link

Amicalement
Armand

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2020 4:04 p.m. PST

Cloned bacon??!! No thanks I'll get mine from pigs.

clibinarium06 Aug 2020 4:25 p.m. PST

I really hope they perfect this technology. Meat without suffering would be great (so long as it doesn't come with some other large downside, which it may well do).

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2020 6:31 p.m. PST

I think I'll stick to the real stuff too, though this is perhaps a better option than a soy, or veggie substitute, assuming it tastes like real bacon, and has the consistency to real meat.

Palewarrior07 Aug 2020 2:13 a.m. PST

I believe scientists are concerned that consuming too much of this, will turn you into a pig-faced Orc.

Andrew Preziosi07 Aug 2020 7:50 a.m. PST

IF, I can do anything to eliminate the suffering or needless death of any animal I w/do so…Gladly!

Vegetarian with limited meat/fish intake for the last several years and I will continue to try and lower that amount as time passes and as plant (or cell) based foods come to meet the taste expectations of the consumer.

If I can wean myself after 65 years, I'm sure it will be easier for young(er) people who care.

Does anyone want to hear/read the environmental Horror Stories from NC and other states after a Hurricane when their massive pig farms are flooded, etc.?

Again though, the operative word is reduction and weaning. Even "I" have to have a DAMN GOOD Hamburger once a year (5 Guys or Grilled home-made), but by the same token I can live on Fresh Veggie Loaded Semi-Homemade Ramen soup five days a week and enjoy/savor it on the fifth day as much as I did on the first!

Legion 407 Aug 2020 9:30 a.m. PST

I believe scientists are concerned that consuming too much of this, will turn you into a pig-faced Orc.
From what I can see, it may be to late for some already ! 🐷

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2020 11:47 a.m. PST

Interesting

In terms of food safety, despite what one might think, foods prepared in this manner are actually more likely to be contaminated with pathogenic bacteria than when they come from "on the hoof"

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2020 1:01 p.m. PST

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Dagwood07 Aug 2020 1:21 p.m. PST

One rather large downside (for the pigs) is that if it succeeds then pigs will no longer be profitable, and no farmer will rear any. Result – extinction or near extinction of pigs.

Zephyr107 Aug 2020 2:42 p.m. PST

It's all going to come down to cost; If it's more expensive than the real thing, then it's only going to be a snooty gourmet thing… ;-)

Andrew Preziosi08 Aug 2020 7:29 a.m. PST

I HATE Damn Snooty Gourmand's and Gourmet tipes of peeple! wink

Augustus08 Aug 2020 11:22 a.m. PST

It isn't cloned. It is grown. Total difference. Cells do what they are programmed to do naturally.

These foods are likely to be safer than traditional as you cant rear a pig in a lab environment. Pigs today receive loads of antivirals, antibiotics, growth hormones, you name it. This could mean cleaner meat as those drugs would not be required assuming the environment is maintained clinically.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2020 11:46 a.m. PST

Good point!.

Amicalement
Armand

skipper John Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2020 5:48 p.m. PST

Hey! What about ham, ribs, tenderloin and hot dogs? You get rid of the pigs and there goes some of my favorite foods.

Legion 409 Aug 2020 8:48 a.m. PST

Agreed !!!!! 😯

Covert Walrus25 Aug 2020 4:04 p.m. PST

oh boy, oh boy.

Cloned bacon??!! No thanks I'll get mine from pigs.

The original scells have to coem from pigs, soe the meat is "fgrom pigs" Just like when you have a burrn victim, the skin comes from donated "cloned" skin, and iit's still skin; Notably, foreskins mainly. Though Stem cell maodification is replacing it I would imagine.

In terms of food safety, despite what one might think, foods prepared in this manner are actually more likely to be contaminated with pathogenic bacteria than when they come from "on the hoof"

[Citation Needed] I would think just the opposite: Havign seen firsthand the cleani]liness procedures at cell culture labs ( During interviews for a position there ) I'd say that your average abbatoir would be an order of magnitude less clean in a ocrobial sense ( Again, I've seen those durign interviews as well ).

if it succeeds then pigs will no longer be profitable, and no farmer will rear any. Result extinction or near extinction of pigs.

Not really – You'll probably still need cell lines from live pigs as cell cultures are prone to mutating to the point where they no longer breed ( Though they aren't toxic or anything ). One reason why when the technology was primitive about 20 years agao, it was thought that such meat woudl hev to be derived from similar itesm to waht many plants are cloned from ( To make retrovirus-free sedlings ) : Basically cancer tumors. However, the cell culture technology has leapt forward ( Due shockingly to research into plastics spurred by HIV/AIDS tests ) and practically any cells vcan be cultured.
Livestock would therefore still be needed, but in smaller numbers, like "blood horses" and I imagine they would lead as pampered and luxurious a life as those creatures. In fact, zoos and biological gardens could become sources of exotic cultured meats as well; One can imagine lark's tongue or whale meat as common as chicken, with a portion of the cost going to support wildlife recovery efforts for those animals.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.