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Tango0106 Aug 2020 3:15 p.m. PST

Nice.

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Armand

Andrew Walters07 Aug 2020 10:43 a.m. PST

Really neat!

Would have liked to see more PPE, that looks like a good way to lose a finger. I wonder how the process is different on a *big* tank.

Tango0107 Aug 2020 1:01 p.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it my friend!. (smile)

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StarCruiser07 Aug 2020 3:46 p.m. PST

And meanwhile – in World of Tanks – you just press a button and *POOF* the track's back on!

Tango0108 Aug 2020 11:46 a.m. PST

(smile)

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse09 Aug 2020 8:39 a.m. PST

Yes, in reality having to change/repair a track is a massive Pain in the Bleeped text ! 😣

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP09 Aug 2020 12:39 p.m. PST

So all that Brad Pitt needed, with an Easy 8, was a bit of time, a spare track etc…..and he would not have to have done that crazy defence (sorry, defense) of that road, against a bunch of footslogging SS marching to their deaths, in Spring 45 Germany.

Every time I watch that I think…..NO NO NO. The track is gone. Run back fast as you can. You have massive air and Art and A/T superiority. You will get home, have grandchildren and appear in a Spielberg movie visiting, not inhabiting, a cemetery.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse10 Aug 2020 7:18 a.m. PST

Well IIRC not only was the track itself broken by the mine, but so was the road wheel(s) and part of the suspension. And we don't know if there was an damage to the hull that would make it difficult/impossible to replace the suspension system, road wheels(s) & the track that was destroyed in the blast.

Plus you might need an M31 Recovery Vehicle to assist in that repair. Never saw an M4 track/suspension system repaired or replaced[before this video anyway]. But an M113 APC and/or M60 MBT … yes … so based on the repair job you may or may not need an M88, M578, etc. link

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2020 9:03 a.m. PST

Found this researching a model of this tank for 2eme DB. The reality of track repair in the field (literally in the field)

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse01 Sep 2020 10:50 a.m. PST

Yes I've seen that a number of times … Not a day of fun …

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2020 1:10 p.m. PST

You will soon see it in 1/72, in Free French markings.
Let me ask the experts, that spare wheel on the back. Is it a bogie wheel, open rather than solid, as Beauce II is often shown with one in use, or is it a spare for the back roller?

You are bound to ask, does it really matter?

But if you ask that, you have totally missed the point of OCD. Four months ago I could not have told an M4A2 from an M4 A3 Easy 8 HVSS (actually that I could have done, even then) but you know what I mean

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2020 6:06 a.m. PST

Definitely a road wheel. One easy give away. The open spoke road wheel has 5 vanes (so called star pattern) while the open spoke idler wheel has 6. Also the open spoke road wheel has a small bearing hub, the idler wheel a high capacity hub.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2020 11:01 a.m. PST

Ask (the experts) and you shall receive.

I show my ignorance by calling the big wheel at the back a "roller"…..it is an "idler wheel" I will now remember. Certainly never noticed the six vs five spokes before.

Great answer. Thanks

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse02 Sep 2020 4:02 p.m. PST

Marc is correct. I've seen a number of M4s in reality and built many more M4 models in my youth …

Rudysnelson02 Sep 2020 7:47 p.m. PST

using a M88 or M578 to help change a track would be regarded as a misallocation of resources. The best you could hope for would be for them to pull you out of the mud to a dry and level position. So you could quickly change the track.
I have seen a M578 tow two M113 and once saw a M88 haul 2 M60s. That was a bad thing about only having three men in a scout track. It took longer to change a track pad. The track pins would break more often than you think.
M551 track work was much easier than the M1. Lol.

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