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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian04 Aug 2020 12:51 p.m. PST

You were asked – TMP link

Would You Game in 54mm If You Could?

55% said "no"
28% said "yes"
9% said "I already game in 54mm"

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 1:12 p.m. PST

Have a lot of found memories of living room carpet covered with old marx and mpc soldiers, tanks and cannons – with friends and I with our tennis balls and rubber bands,,,

Pan Marek04 Aug 2020 2:26 p.m. PST

I game Pig Wars with 54s.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 4:46 p.m. PST

Heretics.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 6:11 p.m. PST

Would if I could – i.e. someone else has the minis!

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 1:26 a.m. PST

In my opinion and experience It is a great size to play in.
However.
The practicalities are a nightmare.
The need for large building and tree models.
Size of soldiers.
Size of table.
Monetary cost.

But we can dream.


martin

Green Tiger05 Aug 2020 2:30 a.m. PST

I have done quite a lot of 54mm gaming.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 2:47 a.m. PST

I suppose it's no use pointing out that "would you game in 54mm?" was not the question in the poll?

The question in the poll was whether or not I would buy a described type of 54mm army if it became available. That's different, and got a different answer.

Really, when I want tilted polls, I go to the political people, who are professionals at that sort of thing.

altfritz05 Aug 2020 5:04 a.m. PST

I just started gaming in 54mm. Whether I would buy an army offered for sale: "that depends"…what army? what price? which figures? etc. etc. etc.

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 6:05 a.m. PST

Besides gaming the FIW in 40mm I game the Romans vs Barbarians in 60mm. Loads of fun. I only have a table 5" x 15" and never had a problem with space. Last game I had 12 players and we had a great game as the Celts attacked a Roman settlement. Over the years I have gamed with 15mm, 20mm, 25mm, 28mm and 54mm. Had fun with my collections in all the scales.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 12:42 p.m. PST

It was an oddly worded poll.

Sgt Slag05 Aug 2020 7:37 p.m. PST

I've been playing with tan and green plastic Army Men figures since 1998. Cost? Are you kidding? Cheap as chips! Do I have 54mm sized vehicles? No! I use the 40mm models they sell -- I play games, not simulations. I don't care!

Is it fun? Hell Yes! Do I play with dirt clods and tennis balls? No! I use CRT's and d6-based rules. My adult nephew likes to host in his shop, where we set up tables which are 12 feet wide, by 30 feet long. It is incredible, really. It is a childhood fantasy come true. Is it costly. No!

Call me a Gaming Redneck, or Gamer Trailer Trash, but I'm having an amazingly good time. We played an incredible game, over a weekend, and it was nip and tuck, to the end. The Green Invaders won, technically, but the terrible cost made it a hollow victory. We had an incredibly fun time playing it. Damn, it was fun.

Working on the terrain for the next game: MDF buildings for a city, most are 2-4 stories tall. Hoping to play some time in September, as progress is slow on the buildings. This will be an Infantry game, where Tanks are vulnerable, with limited mobility and LOS. The last game was mostly open fields, where Tanks mopped up, until they killed each other off, with AP shells. Infantry, in that game, took severe casualties, until the Tanks were mostly eliminated. Next time, the Tanks will be afraid -- very afraid… Cheers!

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Aug 2020 6:50 p.m. PST

Great reply Sargent Slog! +100

Uparmored07 Aug 2020 2:24 a.m. PST

Slag what rules are you using? sounds like a good time.

I gamed with 54mm/1/35 Tamiya and Dragon kits a few years ago. I had one really good game, I still have the guys. I loved how I could customise their poses and gear.

But I changed to 20mm and 6mm which I'm still building for my first games. Not sure why, maybe I wanted more combined arms? Or something..

Sgt Slag07 Aug 2020 1:30 p.m. PST

Back in 1998, I wrote, and self-published, my own set of Army Men rules: Plastic Wars. I've revised it a couple of times. I hope to publish the latest revision of the rules, again, only in PDF, and POD format, on the popular sites that market such things.

My rules are d6-based. They were written to introduce newbie's to tabletop/floor war games, without an experienced gamer to guide them. I covered the game rules, terrain-making, how to use a Ping Pong Table to get off of the floor, painting, scenarios, making smoke, and other things. The physical limitations of the printing format I used, meant some of that information had to be moved to my web site, as it was too much for the page count I could muster. In PDF/POD format, none of that will be a hindrance.

In the early 2000's, I ran Community Education classes introducing kids, and adults, to war games, using my rules. My classes always filled up, and I was asked to add additional classes on, to accommodate demand.

I sold my rules until around 2007, when I shut it down. My advertising budget was $0. USD Even with that, I sold around 150 copies, mostly mail order, with a few overseas/international sales. It was a lot of fun… And a lot of work! Barely broke even, but I had a ball doing it.

The rules are sophisticated enough, to keep even experienced war gamers enjoying themselves. They are basic enough for beginners to grasp, and get a lot of joy out of the game.

Today, I mount the figures on 2-inch square MDF bases, texturing them with colored sands. We use basic terrain. I used to paint the figures, but it rubs off after 5-10 years, so I don't bother anymore. Here is a link to my AAR of our most recent game: TMPLink. Cheers!

acough2001 Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2020 6:09 a.m. PST

I've been dabbling in 54's almost exclusively over the last few years. They are easy to paint, either as "toy soldiers" or more sophisticated/historical styles. There are several rule sets out there that focus on the scale, notably All the King's Men (ATKM), Charge, and my most recent discovery, About Bonaparte.

As for battles, my areas are primarily the American War of Independence (AWI), or one of my first interests, the War of 1812. The battles were small, so 54's are practical.

Finally, the figures produced by X-Force, HaT, Call to Arms, and Armies in Plastic (AIP), are readily available and inexpensive. I even created my own blog to showcase the scale.
https://derresinkavalier.blogspot.com

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