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Dennis030201 Aug 2020 3:13 p.m. PST

Does anyone have a source for 28mm ARVN? Baker Company is o
off line.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2020 4:10 p.m. PST

Oh please…please…

I have been begging for ages. At the time they were one of the largest armies in the world and they played a massive part in the VN War (of course they did!)

But I want sensible figures.

Skinny, shorter guys with M1 helmets that seem huge on them, weapons that dwarf them and very, very, tight tailored overalls (US pants, we call them trousers or combats). No flak jacket generally.

They are not just smaller "Grunts" (I hate that term still, having been told nearly 40 years ago you do not call a Marine a grunt, when I was in Michigan and asked about it, from a guy who was such in VN)

mjkerner01 Aug 2020 4:37 p.m. PST

Agree, Deadhead! (My older brother was in the Air Cav over there in '66-'67, and they aren't "grunts" either; they're Troopers!) I think Empress' ARVN will be what you are looking for, judging by their NVA/VC so far. Check 'em out. Paul Hicks will get it right.

Skarper02 Aug 2020 1:43 a.m. PST

ARVN are never going to be big sellers so it is hard for a manufacturer to make the investment in sculpting, moulds etc.

There are some new plastic in 1/72 from ORION but they are not great. Welcome addition of course.

I really don't understand what the deal was with the tight trousers. Not suitable for the climate at all.

ARVN combat deaths are estimated around 250 000, so saw a lot of combat.

Performance was generally poor though it is easy to see why this might be. In the final phase of the war the ARVN fought much harder. They expected harsh treatment should they lose and for the most part they got it.

It's still an issue today if you had family working or fighting for the GVN.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2020 9:14 a.m. PST

I see the grunt question has been raised elsewhere.

My impression was they could call themselves grunts, but no outsider could. This is a totally UK based perception from only six months in Michigan meeting many a vet. It was an insult that they adopted with pride.

Like "dogfaces" in WWII (that I never understood)

Legion 402 Aug 2020 3:39 p.m. PST

Yes we even called ourselves in the US Army Infantry "Grunts" in the '80s. And we were happy to be referred to as "Grunts"…

I believe what was said on this thread "When is a grunt not a grunt?" comments from 79th PA, etc. are correct. I am told anyway as I can not access the thread as I am banned from the UM board. 😠😥

So yes, any Infantryman is and can be called a Grunt. E.g. I was Airborne & Air Assault qualified among other things. Served in the 101 Air Assault Div., then 3 Mech Infantry Bns after that. As long as you have those Crossed Rifles on your collar. Regardless of what position you served in you are always Grunt. So Yes Skarper and deadhead, etc. I was a Grunt … and proud of it ! 🤩

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