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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2020 9:50 p.m. PST

Great job.

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Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2020 9:54 p.m. PST

A good rules of thumb for most occasions, though it's rather hard to "hang ten" without doing that.

Love the mist in the photos. Looking great!

Stryderg31 Jul 2020 10:21 p.m. PST

Reminds me of a movie, if only I could remember the name.
Nice work.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2020 2:47 a.m. PST

Very clever. I love the recognisable characters.

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2020 3:28 a.m. PST

I love the smell of a good paint job in the morning!

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2020 4:26 a.m. PST

'I loved you in Wall Street'.

Where did that come from … ?

Bismarck01 Aug 2020 7:26 a.m. PST

That is some awesome work. Love the pbr and the characters were spot on.

Legion 401 Aug 2020 8:38 a.m. PST

Yes great modeling and figures !

14Bore01 Aug 2020 11:27 a.m. PST

Use that line often and fantastic job on those very recognizable figures.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2020 4:10 p.m. PST

Excellent beautiful work

Chuckaroobob01 Aug 2020 7:52 p.m. PST

"Not unless you're going all the way."

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2020 9:22 a.m. PST

Two of the characters are just incredible. The star goes to the skipper, the tall black guy with very sharp cheekbones for Afro-American, whose name escapes me. I always thought he was the only sane person on the boat.

Could a Huey really lift a boat this size???????? I have seen it in the film and thought even Chinook would struggle.

I always always wanted to do the Tamiya one, with all the after market brass extras for super detailing. Actually, when the Prussian hussars are done and the last Shermans added to 2eme DB en Paris 44…maybe

Legion 402 Aug 2020 9:43 a.m. PST

I had the same thought. But never having to slingload a PBR when I was in the 101. I had to check online with some UH-1 and CH-47 Pilots …


Yes…but it depends on the weight. How much a Huey can "sling-load" also depends on the air temperature, density altitude, etc….so it's much less when it's really hot, for example.

A typical "H" model Huey (as seen in "Apocalypse Now") weighs about 8,000 pounds with crew, gas, equipment, etc. The maximum allowable gross weight for a UH-1H is 9,500 pounds…so typically, you can sling load about 1,200-1,500 pounds.

I'm an ex-U.S. Army Huey pilot, and we used to sling load heavy items on a regular basis.

yes. The boat was lightweight and the helicopter powerful enough, with enough rotor to get the lift needed. The Baby Huey is a heavy cargo craft. Boats that size weigh only about as much as a car. The Army used them to transport heavy trucks. Like the Deuce and a Half, or 2 1/2 ton truck. The truck is called that for its carrying capacity, not its actual weight. It is much heavier than that.

The film used real equipment because it was cheaper than trying to shoot a scene like that in a studio. They shot it in the Philippines because it looked like what most Americans perceived as the actual Central Highlands of VietNam.

Unfortunately the PBR weighs 6 tons light. This is well beyond the cargo capacity of a huey. SO the one in the movie was either a fake or a empty shell. Huey's are usually good for a cargo of 7,000 lbs.

the UH1H, or Huey can lift up to 2200 lbs if your boat weighs less then that then it can lift it up…….

It can if the boat's light enough. The PBR is way, way too heavy for it.

CH-47

What is the maximum amount of weight a Chinook can lift?


The answer to this question really depends on which Model Chinook you are referring to. There are CH-47 Chinook models ranging from the first A model up to the D model and the improved D model known as the Improved Cargo Helicopter (ICH).

The initial CH47- A model only had a 10,000 pound payload capacity which wasn't really enough for what the Army wanted to use it for in Vietnam given the heat and the humid conditions with mountainous terrain.

The B model incorporated some changes but the payload capacity didn't increase officially until the C model came out. This upgrade gave the Chinook more powerful turbo shaft engines than it had before and it gave a 20,000 pound external lift capability.

The CH-47D further upgraded the external payload lift capability to 26,000 pounds. The ICH version would lower the external lift to 16,000 pounds but house an upgraded avionics and fuel cell system. This design would be in hopes to keep the CH-47 in service for many years to come. Some remanufacturing would be involved and with the ever improving technological advances, this would be an aircraft with a significantly lower amount of vibration which is the enemy of any aircraft while flying.

All that said, the maximum lift of a Chinook at optimal lifting configuration is in the ballpark of 26,000 pounds.

Skarper02 Aug 2020 3:37 p.m. PST

I remember reading somewhere in the film it was a plastic mock up of the PBR – obviously really.

Legion 402 Aug 2020 3:42 p.m. PST

I believe that was the case too. Like I said I never slungloaded a PBR but it seems to me to be too heavy. 🤔

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2020 4:15 p.m. PST

Happy you like them boys!. (smile)


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