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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2020 9:38 p.m. PST

"Russia is currently investigating Valery Mitko, one of its senior scientists in the field of submarine detection. Mitko is the head of the Arctic Academy of Science, where he had been in charge of sonar research and new methods for detecting submerged submarines. Mitgo was arrested in February and placed under house arrest. In June, a court ruled that the investigation had made sufficient progress to keep Mitko confined until October.

Mitko was initially accused of turning over secret information while on a trip to China. A search of his home and workplace found more evidence of working for China, perhaps as far back as 2017. Before undertaking an academic career, the 78 year old Mitko had been in the navy and served on Russian submarines from 1963 to 1994. Mitko was a trusted member of the Russian research community and had been a visiting professor at the Chinese Dalian Maritime University since 2016. If convicted, Mitko faces 20 years in prison for treason. Such an outcome would be a significant embarrassment for the Russian intelligence community as well as another setback for academic cooperation between China and Russia…"
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Barin131 Jul 2020 2:24 a.m. PST

That's what everybody does now (and was doing years before) Stealing looks a cost effective solution to many problems. The guy will die in prison but I doubt that it will stop China looking what else to steal and some Russians from selling their country for dollars

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2020 7:26 a.m. PST

Is it Friday already?

Been there, done that.

A bit surprised by this, especially given the guy's advanced age. Perhaps they offered him a lot of money, or other compensation.

I would have figured they'd just hack the Russian computers for the needed data instead. Seems like that would be a bit easier to do, given ALL the stuff they've stolen from the USA that way.

"Such an outcome would be a significant embarrassment for the Russian intelligence community as well as another setback for academic cooperation between China and Russia…".

Definitely a real embarrassment for Russia, and a setback for academic cooperation from their perspective, but from the Chinese side of things, the "academic cooperation" IS a huge plus for them, and NOT a setback by any means.

Of course, the Russians know the Chinese are doing this to ALL their military kit, as they steal tech for fighter aircraft, jet engines, etc., etc., after buying just a few copies, and then begin producing their own "domestic" copies. The Chinese have failed to be able to adequately copy the jet engines though, leading to a number of issues for them in that defense category.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2020 12:24 p.m. PST

(smile)

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Personal logo 15mm and 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2020 3:27 p.m. PST

Why pour millions into expensive R&D when you can get it for free?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2020 12:05 p.m. PST

Dude…!


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Zephyr101 Aug 2020 9:17 p.m. PST

There is also the chance some of the stuff they are getting was planted, with not-so-obvious built-in flaws or other 'backdoors' to negate the capabilities. From a counter-espionage standpoint, that's something I would do… ;-)

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2020 10:51 a.m. PST

With friends and "allies" like them, who needs enemies.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2020 12:06 p.m. PST

Here's a link to info on the Sino-Soviet Border clashes in 1969:

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Appears the Chinese used mainly infantry, mortars and artillery, while the Soviets fielded T-62s, BTR-60s, BM-21s, and other artillery.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2020 4:23 p.m. PST

Thanks-!


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arealdeadone02 Aug 2020 5:47 p.m. PST

There is also the chance some of the stuff they are getting was planted, with not-so-obvious built-in flaws or other 'backdoors' to negate the capabilities. From a counter-espionage standpoint, that's something I would do… ;-)

Given how convoluted and protracted military systems development is these days I suspect they just try to get the things to work in the first place.

Adding built in flaws would just make it more expensive and more prone to failure than it already is.

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