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Tango0129 Jul 2020 9:25 p.m. PST

Superb!

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Hope you enjoy!

Amicalement
Armand

skipper John30 Jul 2020 5:47 a.m. PST

Amazing!!!!!!!!

Long Valley Gamer Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2020 6:00 a.m. PST

Well done!

Bill N30 Jul 2020 6:55 a.m. PST

Very impressive. Now for a question. Would German troops have carried grenades when travelling on a train? Seems awfully risky.

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2020 9:04 a.m. PST

Truly extraordinary! So much attention to detail; the facial expressions, realistic equipment and uniforms, the interconnected poses all blending together with outstanding backdrops and captured by superb photography. These dioramas should be in a museum.

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2020 9:45 a.m. PST

Impressive indeed. These things are just so engaging … draws my eye right in. And my imagination.


Like I just keep imagining the tune of "I've been working on the railroad" faintly rising out of that tunnel…

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Tango0130 Jul 2020 12:11 p.m. PST

Happy you like it boys!. (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Old Paul30 Jul 2020 1:38 p.m. PST

Looks like 12 inch action figures--pretty amazing.

Tango0131 Jul 2020 12:50 p.m. PST

Glad you like them too my friend!


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse31 Jul 2020 6:30 p.m. PST

😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

von Schwartz02 Aug 2020 4:44 p.m. PST

Very impressive. Now for a question. Would German troops have carried grenades when travelling on a train? Seems awfully risky

Now my question, Why?

Wolfhag02 Aug 2020 7:03 p.m. PST

von Schwartz,
I wonder too. Maybe expecting Partisan attacks?

Wolfhag

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2020 11:48 a.m. PST

Would German troops have carried grenades when travelling on a train? Seems awfully risky

My understanding is no, German troops would not have been likely to carry grenades when traveling on a train. At least not issued to individual soldiers … it may well have been common for grenades to travel with the soldiers as available munitions, but they would likely have been in crates rather than issued out to individuals.

At least that is my impression.

As to risky? Maybe risky in terms of losing valued munitions. But not particularly risky in terms of a dangerous accidental discharge, I would guess.

The German M39 hand grenade (as correctly pictures -- props to the guys who set this up for mostly using the FJ's preferred grenade) used the same fusing mechanism as the Heer's more ubiquitous "potato-masher" -- you had to unscrew a cap and pull a cord to initiate the fuse. This was a time-consuming two-handed job (rather than the simple pull-ring of US and British grenades), making it more awkward in combat but less likely to happen accidentally by dropping or bumping, etc.

I only see one, or perhaps two, potato-mashers in evidence. The guys carrying them do not appear to be FJs, so perhaps these are the garrison troops at the destination railyard. But the most obvious guy with a potato-masher is clearly an officer. This seems even more unlikely to me, unless he was carrying it as an affectation to show off his combat creds or some such. When you carried a potato mashers tucked into the belt it was hard to sit down, bend over, or quickly go prone, and in the back of the jack-boots they made it hard to walk. There really was no way to carry them comfortably for any period of time.

But stranger things have happened in wartime. So yeah, maybe the emotional comfort they got from having some pocket-artillery was greater than the physical discomfort of carrying it.

Maybe expecting Partisan attacks?

Seems unlikely to me. If they were expecting Partisan attacks on the train, I would have thought they would have placed the troops in something other than a wood-sided open-topped car. There were armored troop-carrier train cars available for high-risk routes. In cases where such train cars were not available, German troops seem to have tended to re-enforce the sides with sand-bags. Seems they didn't want to get shot to pieces before they could bring their guns to bear. Ooh, such un-cooperative targets!

Also, when there was considered to be some risk of partisan attacks trains tended to push at least one or two cars in front of the locomotive. This was not a secret -- it's pretty clear from many wartime pics. I don't see any evidence of that in this scene, and it does appear these guys do their research. So I doubt this was the back-story.

I would attribute the grenades to nothing more than showing off. They have the kit, and they wanted to put it on display.

Of course I could be wrong, both in my understanding of SOP and in my interpretation of the intent of these guys. But that's how I would interpret the scene.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2020 12:08 p.m. PST

I might add that I am really disappointed that no one seems to have been amused by my veiled reference to Kelly's Heroes.

Yeah, I know, don't give up my day job to be a comedian…

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Tango0103 Aug 2020 1:19 p.m. PST

(smile)


Amicalement
Armand

AICUSV04 Aug 2020 3:59 p.m. PST

Very nice, but I don't think it will fit on a 4x6 table.

Tango0117 Aug 2020 10:22 p.m. PST

Have to agree with you… (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Aug 2020 8:02 a.m. PST

and in the back of the jack-boots they made it hard to walk.

There really was no way to carry them comfortably for any period of time.

Based on my experiences wearing combat boots in the Infantry, the grenade would fall out when running. And handle would rub your leg raw on a long march/movement.

But stranger things have happened in wartime
I agree … SOPs may be ignored, etc., especially by new guys, until corrected by an NCO, etc. And with all the troops running around in WWII, one or two may not always do what is wise or accepted.

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