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Tango0127 Jul 2020 8:27 p.m. PST

…Strike Weapons

"Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Sunday the Russian Navy would be armed with hypersonic nuclear strike weapons and underwater nuclear drones, which the defence ministry said were in their final phase of testing.

Putin, who says he does not want an arms race, has often spoken of a new generation of Russian nuclear weapons that he says are unequalled and can hit almost anywhere in the world. Some Western experts have questioned how advanced they are…"

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Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP27 Jul 2020 9:05 p.m. PST

Let's see…you fire a hyper-sonic nuclear weapon at me. I fire a slow one at you. Both hit their targets and detonate.

So, so won?

Thresher0127 Jul 2020 9:09 p.m. PST

He apparently also claimed they're getting 70 new vessels "this year".

I find that hard to believe, unless they are gigs and other, inexpensive, easily produced, small craft.

arealdeadone27 Jul 2020 10:00 p.m. PST

To be fair Thrasher the Russians don't need a lot of large vessels given they are a land power and have limited access to oceans.


The number of vessels I saw planned for delivery in 2020 on the well reputable Janes is around 40. And yes this does include small vessels such as patrol boats, tugs, mine counter measure vessels as well as a larger hydrographic research ship (Project 20183 Akademik Alexandrov). All are necessary for a functional navy.

To date several larger ships and submarines were delivered including a Borei class SSBN (24,000 ton displacement). They are actually planning to commission a further 3 submarines this year including a further 2 Yasin class cruise missile subs and an improved Kilo class.


The Russians appear to be ramping up submarine production with several under construction and maybe 4-5 delivered next year.

The surface fleet is struggling following loss of access to Ukrainian engines. Still 1 large 5000+ ton frigate was commissioned this year with a second planned. Corvettes are also being commissioned (these are close to light frigates and pack considerable firepower).


The US itself has been slow to commission new ships eg in 2019 only 2 destroyers were commissioned (DDG-117 USS Paul Ignatius and DDG-1001 USS Michael Monsoor) and 1 Virginia class attack sub (SSN-790 USS South Dakota).

They also commissioned 6 LCS though given these are glorified patrol boats built to civilian standards, of no combat value and whose vast majority of mission systems were cancelled or indefinitely delayed, I don't really regard these as surface combatants.

Thresher0127 Jul 2020 10:31 p.m. PST

Oh, I agree on the LCS'.

They're really fast, overly expensive, naval yachts, not warships, or even patrol boats.

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2020 1:51 a.m. PST

,,Lot of we are getting new this and that…but still no shows..just lots of Bluster.

Tango0128 Jul 2020 12:28 p.m. PST

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arealdeadone28 Jul 2020 3:26 p.m. PST

Lot of we are getting new this and that…but still no shows..just lots of Bluster.

Hang on I provided examples of some vessels delivered this year.

Do I need to dredge up names of these ships?

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