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Widowson22 Jul 2020 5:55 p.m. PST

Does anyone have access to an enlarged image of the star that Russian Guard Heavy Cavalry had on their shabraques and pistol holsters?

Thanks.

Cuprum222 Jul 2020 7:15 p.m. PST

I think this will help:

link

Widowson22 Jul 2020 8:35 p.m. PST

Wow. There's a lot of information there. I am specific to the Napoleonic Russians.

Widowson24 Jul 2020 8:13 p.m. PST

I just need a large format picture of the star. I'm trying to reproduce it in 1/72 for a unit of 1805 Horse Guards. I'm thinking 12 figures plus a couple of casualties.

Cuprum225 Jul 2020 9:39 a.m. PST

Widowson26 Jul 2020 2:55 p.m. PST

Many thanks, Cuprum2. I found this image, but it was very small and not very much help.

Widowson26 Jul 2020 2:59 p.m. PST

Which unit is this with the blue shabraque?

Cuprum226 Jul 2020 7:20 p.m. PST

"Stars" had three Russian cuirassier regiments:
Chevalier-Gardes regiment red applied color
Horse Guards Regiment blue
His Majesty's Cuirassiers Regiment (Emperor Cuirassiers) Sky Blue
Her Majesty's Cuirassier Regiment (Empress Cuirassiers) crimson color

In addition, the "Military Order Regiment" had a different star

1. Chevalier-Gardes regiment
2. Life-Guard Horse regiment
3. His Majesty's Life Cuirassier Regiment
4. Her Majesty's Life Cuirassier Regiment
5. Astrakhan cuirassier regiment
6. Ekaterinoslav cuirassier regiment
7. Military Order cuirassier regiment
8. Glukhov cuirassier regiment
9. Malorossiya cuirassier regiment
10. Novgorod cuirassier regiment

Prince of Essling27 Jul 2020 12:44 p.m. PST

picture

1990. Officer's cartridge pouch, Cavalier Guards Regiment, 1801-1803
2000. Stars for helmets in the Guards Cavalry, since 1803. a. Lower ranks. b. Officers.
1995. Kettledrum banner, L.-Gds. Horse Regiment, 1802-1825

Clearer version of the pouch which can be blown up at link

Widowson28 Jul 2020 4:55 p.m. PST

This is all extremely helpful. Many thanks to all.

Widowson28 Jul 2020 4:57 p.m. PST

Caprum2 – seems to me that when the Russians specify "sky blue" they really mean turquoise. Is that correct?

Prince of Essling29 Jul 2020 5:03 a.m. PST

Definitely says light blue for HM Life Cuirassiers. Colour in the illustration is wrong as agree the shade looks more like turquoise. Viskavotov's illustrations have a darker shade of blue… Will see if I can dig out other illustrations.

Prince of Essling29 Jul 2020 12:50 p.m. PST

Volume 11 of Viskavotov:
1401. Privates. HIS MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1802-1811. link
1402. Private. HIS MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1802-1811. link
1403. Private. HIS MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1802-1803. link
1404. Noncommissioned Officer. HER MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1802-1803. link
1408. Officer. HIS MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1802-1803. link
1409. General. HER MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1802-1803. link
1414. Noncommissioned Officer and Trumpeter. HIS MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1803-1808. link
1415. Officer. HER MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1803-1811 link
1418. Company-grade Officers. HIS MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment and HER MAJESTY'S Life-Cuirassier Regiment. 1808-1811. link

Volume 15
2016. Private. L.-Gds. Cuirassier Regiment, 1813-1814. Note. The white insert between the rows of tape on shabracks and pistol carriers was later replaced by blue.
link
2018. Field-Grade Officer and Trumpeter. L.-Gd. Cuirassier Regiment, 1813-1814. link
2019. Company-Grade Officers. Cavalier Guards Regiment, L.-Gds. Horse Regiment, and L.-Gds. Cuirassier Regiment, 1814-1825. link
2020. Company-Grade Officers. Cavalier Guards Regiment, L.-Gds. Horse Regiment, and L.-Gds. Cuirassier Regiment, 1814-1820. link
2021. Non-Commissioned Officers., L.-Gds. Horse Regiment, and L.-Gds. Cuirassier Regiment, 1814-1820. link
2022. Field-Grade Officer and Private. L.-Gds. Cuirassier Regiment, 1814-1820. link

From book on Russian Army 1812-14 link

Widowson29 Jul 2020 3:52 p.m. PST

Thanks very much, Essling. I appreciate the effort and will check out every link. I know it took some doing.

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