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HMS Exeter30 Jun 2020 9:04 a.m. PST

Fully understanding this is near the outer periphery of being on topic, being shut in prompted a discovery.

I've been rewatching both iterations if True Grit and noticed something I hadn't before. In the final shootout, Rooster fells 2 gang members and "shoots Lucky Ned to pieces." Ned is finally despatched by LaBoeuf.

What I had not noticed was that, in both films, one of Rooster's opponents quits the fight and escapes. In the first film, big hat is last seen headed for the tree line. In the second "The Doctor" does a trick ride evasion move and is not seen again. I must consult the book.

Did anyone else notice this?

Presumably, after seeing Ned felled at range, discretion became the better part of keeping one's hide, and the survivor fled.

WarWizard30 Jun 2020 9:06 a.m. PST

I have seen both, and I never noticed anyone got away.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian30 Jun 2020 9:29 a.m. PST

Consulting the book may be difficult, unless you already own a copy.

HMS Exeter30 Jun 2020 9:37 a.m. PST

I had had issues with the new release Ozz figures have firearms and artillery, then I remembered the soldiers in Munchkinland had small muskets.

I also recently watched a YouTube video on The Wizard of Oz. Turns out when the 4 are on their way to confront the Wicked Witch, Scarecrow has a fake looking silver revolver.

There is apparently a deleted scene where the 4 are attacked in the woods by "Jitterbugs." They are stung, and under the influence of the venom, they robotically dance the Jitterbug. The only surviving film of this is some 8mm home movie footage shot surreptitiously by one of the crew through the tree branches.

HMS Exeter30 Jun 2020 9:39 a.m. PST

@EIC, an Amazon order will be sent presently. I recently ordered a copy of Dr Sleep to help sort out some parts of that film that were murky.

walkabout30 Jun 2020 10:03 a.m. PST

Why would it be difficult to consult the book, unless you own a copy?
I remember someone getting away in the remake but not in the original. Will have to watch the shootout again.

walkabout30 Jun 2020 10:15 a.m. PST

Watch the final shootout from the first film and Dirty Bob



(on left) turns and rides away

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jun 2020 12:52 p.m. PST

Had not noticed. Good eyes here.
I will re-watch and see the wicked flee


Tony Adams Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2020 1:12 p.m. PST

I have a copy of the book here. Looking up the fight scene.

On page 202 it states, "The Original Greaser Bob rode wider than the others and he lay flat on his horse and escaped clear with his winnings."

Both Harold and Farrell Permalee were killed on the ride through and Ned Pepper and Rooster were both shot. Note that the names in the book may not be the same as the movies.

Big fan of the book and both movies here.

HMS Exeter30 Jun 2020 3:57 p.m. PST

The character the book described as The Original Greaser Bob is mentioned in the 2010 film as "hunting north of the picket wire." In the movie the dugout cabin is his. The character who escapes by lying flat on his horse is called "The Doctor."

The 2010 movie has 3 Parmalee brothers being killed. Clement is felled in the dugout ambush. Harold and Farrell die in the shootout.

The 1969 film identifies the escapee from the shootout as The Original Mexican Bob.

WarWizard30 Jun 2020 6:45 p.m. PST

I just remembered I have a copy of the paperback. I see that on page 202 also as quoted by Tony.

genew4930 Jun 2020 8:47 p.m. PST

I recently watched both versions and listened to the book on Audible. I always liked the original, saw the next version in the theater and finally caught up with it again. I really enjoyed listening to the book, perhaps recently seeing it on film added to the experience.

arthur181501 Jul 2020 12:44 a.m. PST

I prefer the remake as it's closer to the style and spirit of the book.

genew4901 Jul 2020 5:38 a.m. PST

I agree arthur1815.

mghFond01 Jul 2020 8:56 p.m. PST

I agree with arthur1815 and genew49 too.

Oh and I remember seeing it in the theatre and noticing the Doc got away during the final confrontation between Rooster and the outlaws.

HMS Exeter02 Jul 2020 4:42 p.m. PST

He din't want nobody shootin' holes in that there purty suit o' clothes,

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