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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Jun 2020 7:10 a.m. PST

A prominent statue of Theodore Roosevelt will be removed from the entrance of The American Museum of Natural History in New York City after years of objections that it symbolizes colonial expansion and racial discrimination, officials including Mayor Bill de Blasio announced…


Von Trinkenessen22 Jun 2020 7:46 a.m. PST

There seems to be a general reappraisal of who's statues we will be allowed to have on display on both sides of the pond.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2020 7:57 a.m. PST

I believe the big issue was not necessarily with Teddy Roosevelt but how the statue was placed

Prince Alberts Revenge22 Jun 2020 9:05 a.m. PST

Roosevelt was a great man in my estimation. I don't think his relatives, who still are affiliated with the museum, have issue with the decision to move it. I think the placement of a Native American and an African (or African American) on either side of him are the issue. Of course, these things can get snowballing quickly and who knows what will be the next statue tumbling. Maybe the best solution is to move them all to statue parks like an outdoor museum of sorts.

randy5122 Jun 2020 9:36 a.m. PST

Well, I for one will sleep soooooooooo much better tonight knowing this,…………

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2020 10:00 a.m. PST

I'm sorry, but that statue is NOT a miniature. I can get all this on real clear politics.

Garand22 Jun 2020 10:44 a.m. PST

I think the occasional re-evaluation of our national heroes & how we honor them is healthy. I still think Teddy was a great man too, but I also think the criticism is fair & should be re-evaluated in his portrayal.


SBminisguy22 Jun 2020 11:16 a.m. PST
Pan Marek22 Jun 2020 11:49 a.m. PST

Don't interfere in the click bait.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2020 12:31 p.m. PST

Pan, the price of the click bait is long-term bitterness by continually emphasizing the politics which divide us instead of the miniatures and wargaming which unite. People are stifled, ignored, leave or get thrown out over things having nothing to do with miniatures and everything to do with the political culture. Past time we all gave it a rest here.

skipper John22 Jun 2020 12:38 p.m. PST

I heard the Roosevelt family asked to have it removed. Preemptive perhaps?

D6 Junkie22 Jun 2020 1:13 p.m. PST

I completely agree Robert!
And You really can't stay away from the politics because Bill keeps putting it into the
Regular Historical threads.
Come on Bill,
Put the politics were it belongs and those that enjoy that kind of stuff can go enjoy it. And those that don't can avoid it.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2020 4:50 p.m. PST

Let, oddly enough, the Lenin statue in Seattle hasn't been touched.


dBerczerk22 Jun 2020 5:09 p.m. PST

Why not just cut-away the offending flanking statues with an acetylene torch and leave Teddy's statue standing?

Thresher0122 Jun 2020 7:50 p.m. PST

An interesting observation there, Dn Jackson.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2020 8:49 p.m. PST

The earliest progressive can go, next the worst one of all Wilson, not only couldn't terminat world war one successfully, He was the most racist president of the 20th century. He should just be taken out of the list of American presidents, along with The other racists: Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Van Buren,Harrison , Tyler, Taylor, Polk, Johnson, Grant

Zephyr122 Jun 2020 9:58 p.m. PST

"oddly enough, the Lenin statue in Seattle hasn't been touched."

They probably think it's "Lennon"…

42flanker23 Jun 2020 2:19 a.m. PST

" He should just be taken out of the list of American presidents

Like, they didnt happen? Will that make '45', um…'33'?

FatherOfAllLogic24 Jun 2020 6:14 a.m. PST

Oh, I don't know, the ancient Egyptians and the Romans often tore down statues of previous rulers.

Camcleod25 Jun 2020 8:55 a.m. PST

Didn't the Egyptians deface the offending statue by hacking off their nose or whole face.

The Beast Rampant23 Jul 2020 3:50 p.m. PST

Does this mean the "Night at the Museum" movies are going to be blacklisted?

Wait- is that a racist expression now? Who has this afternoon's Official PC Amendments? I must not be improper, lest I be lynched.

alexpainter09 Jan 2022 8:33 a.m. PST

Another PC fooly, I don't dare to think what these morons will do when they'll run out of symbols to remove….

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2022 8:16 a.m. PST

When and if the perfect person is ever born maybe we can then judge,until then get off the moral soapbox and live your life.

Blutarski15 Jan 2022 8:59 a.m. PST

Ahhh, the immortal President Woodrow Wilson – the man who won the 1916 presidential election on a staunch and unwavering platform of neutrality, yet had America at war barely one month after his inauguration.


Vimy Ridge15 Jan 2022 8:05 p.m. PST

I'm sorry I just don't get the connect of moving a statue in real life to miniature wargaming. This just feels like bear baiting.

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