Help support TMP


""Woke Strike" flaming across Facebook Groups?" Topic


69 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please remember that some of our members are children, and act appropriately.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Discussion Groups and Wargaming Forums Message Board


Action Log

18 Jun 2020 9:18 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Removed from Utter Drivel boardCrossposted to Discussion Groups and Wargaming Forums board

Areas of Interest

General

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Ruleset

Rencounter


Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 


Featured Profile Article

New Computer for Editor Dianna

Time to replace the equipment again!


Current Poll


5,472 hits since 18 Jun 2020
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Pages: 1 2 

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2020 6:52 p.m. PST

USAFPilot – how every interesting ! My G'g'mother had
a newspaper ad framed hanging on the wall of her living
room.

Same thing – asking to hire laborers, and she had underlined
'No Irish need apply'

She had come here at age 5 with her mother, an indentured
servant to a family in Philadelphia, from Cork.

Asteroid X22 Jun 2020 11:17 p.m. PST

'No Irish need apply'

No different from "BIPOC" only may apply.

bruntonboy23 Jun 2020 2:26 a.m. PST

Deal with the issues that lead to the protests then, it's not really rocket science. How long does it take to realise you can't have unjust outcomes before people react.

I believe this sort of anger with the authorities not listening was common around Boston in the 1770's then they pulled down statues of King George that many cherished too.

Same applies here in Britain also, we have been slow to deal with it.

Nobody wants things to end up like October 1917.

SoS Wargaming23 Jun 2020 3:15 a.m. PST

Well this thread is pretty much showing who is racist in this forum. Cheers, it means I can stifle you.

USAFpilot23 Jun 2020 5:48 a.m. PST

Deal with the issues that lead to the protests then

Police shootings make up less than half of 1%. Minuscule compared to the other 99.5%. But those 99.5% doesn't fit the msm narrative.

Here are some "black" stats from last year for you that you'll never hear….
Unarmed men killed by cops ….9
drowned in pools 104
Killed by Interracial violence 6,600

Nobody wants things to end up like October 1917.

Are you so sure? Seems like there are a lot of admirers. Anifa?

USAFpilot23 Jun 2020 5:52 a.m. PST

SosWargaming, typical response from lib***** when losing an argument. Call someone a racist and then run away. Weak..

Asteroid X23 Jun 2020 8:12 a.m. PST

Deal with the issues that lead to the protests

Absolutely!

This is not always easy to do, it seems. The issues in the British colonies in the 1700s were economic and representative – issues from the 1960s on have been moral.

This is far more like those issues in France in the Reign of Terror.

Money and power are one thing but morality is completely another.

These provocateurs hide their true agenda in a very thinly veiled guise of money and power but that has nothing to do with what they are after.

Truly a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Choctaw23 Jun 2020 9:45 a.m. PST

Hey brucka, I was elbow deep in the blood of a black child last night administering CPR. He had been hit by a drunk driver. I'm a police officer and a minority. What did you do last night?

After 33 years in law enforcement not one black man or woman has had to receive medical treatment as a result of interactions with me. However, I have gone to the hospital three times due to blacks and been ambushed by gunfire once because a black male wanted to kill a police officer.

I'm not PC and I won't apologize for a successful career. There are hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers in the U.S. who successfully handle millions of high stress calls per day. For any group to use a few instances to generalize and demonize all of law enforcement is ridiculous. Wouldn't that be like me saying since a black man tried to kill me all blacks are evil? Oh my, that wouldn't do, now would it? Not only would that be repulsive but it would be wildly untrue.

Choctaw23 Jun 2020 5:44 p.m. PST

I asked because I wanted to know if you had any experience in the matter, and apparently you don't. Of course changes need to be made. The equipment we use to stay alive isn't the problem. Do you realize there were fourteen black on black killings last weekend in Chicago and 104 shootings? That is more killings than unarmed blacks suffered at the hands of police over a TWO year period in this entire country. My gosh that is a horror no American should have to deal with and there is no outrage. It is much more convenient to blame others than accept responsibility for one's actions. Until minority communities realize they must help themselves this cycle will continue for generations to come. I know, I am one.

The myriad of problems these people face is heartbreaking. They need a change in political leadership ( I hear the Dawghouse is nice this time of year lol) jobs, better education and medical services and that doesn't even scratch the surface. But that doesn't give anyone the excuse to riot, burn and pillage. Some may think the lawless mob is righteous. No, they're criminals. But it isn't like that everywhere. After my incident last night I just sat on the curb and watched as the paramedics took over. A lady went into her house and came out with wet towel and helped clean me up while a man brought me water. A young man sat down beside and said I did the best I could. These weren't blacks helping a cop, these were just decent people doing what good people do.

Sure, let's send unarmed social workers into the most dangerous and volatile situations any American will face outside of war. Let's send unarmed RNs into situations where a mental subject is out of control and his family is being terrorized. And then let the Monday morning quarterbacks criticize you after they have had days to review the video while you only had a split second to act. Feel free to take those calls away from us. Have fun.

USAFpilot23 Jun 2020 8:48 p.m. PST

Choctaw, first allow me to say ‘thank you' for your service in law enforcement. I'm glad to hear that average citizens helped you clean up. Most of us cannot imagine the stress of knowing that every time you go to work some thug may end your life. Everyone is a critic nowadays, sitting comfortably at home speaking lofty platitudes. Most have no idea about making split second life and death decisions. The silent majority supports you and is sick of the constant, and very biased, barrage of spin from the mainstream media. As you pointed out, when you look at the actual statistics of who is getting killed by whom; it is quite different from what is portrayed by the press. I guess touchy-feely journalism majors are not known for math skills. Sadly, the true narrative has very little to do with race, and a lot to do with politics.

My late uncle was an honest cop. He always had great stories. Keep the faith and stay safe.

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2020 9:41 p.m. PST

You do realize that the actual killing of black men, armed or not, is merely the tip of the iceberg of why there are protests?

It is the life experience of my step-father, a retired Army LC, Ranger and then a senior IT chair for ICE that dreaded driving in a number of states with my mother who is white, being followed around in stores when shopping because he is black and stopped repeatedly while driving in a white neighborhood where they own a home because he's black.

Or maybe it is my step-brother, a senior IT staff in Kuwait and Afghanistan for years with the US military, who has decided to live in Germany, because with all their issues, he still feels safer there with his Filipino wife and child.

Its the way folks get labeled, abused and mistreated just because they are black. A black man, standing in a group of 100 white men, has always stood out in this country with its history of slavery and treatment of minorities, be the white men in that group dumb as bricks with cow Bleeped text between their toes, they are not singled out.

Lets be honest here. This is not a liberal or conservative issue. This country puts four times the % of its citizens in jail/prison of the next ranking country in that measurement. How has our use of police helped that? Not a black issue only, but an American issue.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2020 10:42 p.m. PST

I just wish the BLM movement would reduce the number of black children murdered in Chicago, and other big cities, not by police, by the way. And get a ban on the use of the so called N-word by everyone, including black characters in movies. It grates on me and gives a bad example to people.

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2020 6:12 a.m. PST

This November all those people who feel they have no voice will respond at the polls.

USAFpilot24 Jun 2020 7:05 a.m. PST

This November all those people who feel they have no voice will respond at the polls.

Where have they been? Are you saying they never voted before. Or previously voted for the wrong folks. The city council in Minneapolis is entirely made up from one political party except for one member who is of the Green Party. How come they haven't fixed the problems? They recently voted unanimously to defund the police. These big cities that have all these problems have all been run by the same political party for decades. Look at Chicago, with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation yet still leads in gun deaths. Chicago also known for being one of the most politically corrupt cites in the nation. Yet the people in these big cities keep voting the same way they have always voted, to their detriment. As the comedian George Carlin use to say, "just think how stupid the average person is, then realize that half the people are even stupider than that."

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2020 2:19 p.m. PST

USAF Pilot:

You make many good points, but none of them take away from the fact that this November all those people who feel they have no voice will respond at the polls.

Wolfhag24 Jun 2020 5:23 p.m. PST

This November all those people who feel they have no voice will respond at the polls.

… and be disappointed again.

All politicians can do is pass laws and spend money, neither of which will solve the problem. Look what happened in 1994 when they went to DC asking politicians to solve their crack cocaine problem. Mass Incarcerations. Look at how the politicians in LA and SF are attempting to solve their problems.

Unfortunately, you can't legislate individual morality. The War on Poverty has spawned more poverty.

Look what the politicians did to Detroit which had been one of the most successful cities on the planet. It appears now that some other cities are headed in the same direction. The inmates are now running the asylum.

Wolfhag

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2020 9:43 p.m. PST

Choctaw said, in part: "Let's send unarmed RNs into situations where a mental subject is out of control and his family is being terrorized."

My wife is a retired RN. For part of her career she
was an in-home health provider. She had signs
prominently displayed on her car – 'I'm a nurse.
There are no drugs in my car or my bag'

She did have occasion to enter situations where a
person needed help, but was acting out of control.
All but one of those ended OK. The one which didn't
is the one which led to her retirement and the one
for which she still gets treatment, 15 years
later.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian26 Jun 2020 9:25 a.m. PST

(Some comments removed at the request of the original poster.)

Pages: 1 2 

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.