
"Zeppelins, Again?" Topic
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Editor in Chief Bill  | 17 Jun 2020 3:19 p.m. PST |
The U.S. military is said to be once again evaluating the use of gas-filled airships, partially due to new technology which makes hydrogen safer to use. Do you foresee military airships in the future? * yes * yes, but only as transports * no |
JMcCarroll | 17 Jun 2020 3:57 p.m. PST |
Those that don't have humans on board can go to 100,000 feet. |
Parzival  | 17 Jun 2020 4:02 p.m. PST |
Yes. There's a lot of utility there, as airships can go anywhere and land anywhere, not to mention stay in place at a very high altitude for an indeterminate amount of time. I can see that against comparatively low-tech opponents, they could even be a sustained attack platform which the enemy can't reach or respond to, launching drones, missiles, etc.., as well as providing surveillance and communication links over a broad area. Essentially a dedicated "satellite" that can alter its position anywhere in the world. Would also be effective against drug operations, too. |
20thmaine  | 17 Jun 2020 5:11 p.m. PST |
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Frederick  | 17 Jun 2020 5:55 p.m. PST |
For sure – Parzival had it exactly right, long linger time, able to go pretty much anywhere and with drone/remote technology could have very little (or no) risk of personnel loss, |
von Schwartz | 17 Jun 2020 6:40 p.m. PST |
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Stryderg | 17 Jun 2020 7:05 p.m. PST |
The day of the floating aircraft carrier is upon us! Well, almost. Maybe. |
etotheipi  | 18 Jun 2020 7:34 a.m. PST |
LTA platforms, yes. Already got 'em, but I do see expanded use. Zeppelins? Maybe not. |
Parzival  | 18 Jun 2020 12:30 p.m. PST |
I still think a dirigible is a viable concept as a luxury liner for tourism, too. I'm surprised no one has done it. Imagine a leisurely cruise over the Alps, or across the USA, or over India, the Amazon, etc., etc., with landing sites for day tours at the Grand Canyon, the Great Wall of China, Manku Pichu… And no crowded airliner, but open lounge areas, a cafe, and even a state room, or at least a comfortable sleeping berth. I'd love an opportunity like that. The Hindenburg's passenger areas: link Beats being crammed into a jet any day of the week! |
Legion 4  | 20 Jun 2020 8:26 a.m. PST |
LTA platforms, yes. Already got 'em, Yes but I do see expanded use. Maybe … |
etotheipi  | 20 Jun 2020 10:48 a.m. PST |
Unmanned Aerial Systems are ideal for deploying ad hoc, short range (disposable) network nodes. LTA and near-LTA platforms give you significantly extended on station time. I would suppose that non-critical, unopposed logistics and similar profile operations would also benefit. Imagine a quadcopter augmented by a helium balloon. Slower and less maneuverable. But every bit of lift the LTA portion gives is less lift that needs to be generated by the quadcopter. That leads to lower power demand during flight, give you extended time(/range if you want that) for a given battery/fuel. Depending on the UAS part and your payload, you might be able to get the power demand to carry out mission ops less than what you could recharge with a solar cell (which becomes part of the payload weight cost). With an infrared biased solar cell, I could even do some pulse recharging from a high altitude vehicle borne laser. |
Legion 4  | 21 Jun 2020 11:03 a.m. PST |
IIRC a USN(?) Blimp called "Fat Albert" was tethered on FL Coast monitoring Cuban radio, etc. |
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