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MrZorro15 Jun 2020 12:11 p.m. PST

Just got a box of Perry Minis HYW Mounted Knights, plan to do 6 English and French and I am looking for inspiration, historic or not.

P.S. Why they do not have shields?

Legionarius15 Jun 2020 1:54 p.m. PST

When plate armor began to cover the entire body and stronger alloys became available after the second half of the fourteenth century the better armed knights and man at arms began to abandon the shield as an unnecessary encumbrance. Small shields remained in use among less well armed men (the majority). Some knights continued to use shields when wearing less plate armor such as when scaling castles or fighting on foot. Specialized shields and pieces of plate were also used in jousting. The fifteenth century and the early sixteenth centuries were the golden age of the archetypical knight in shinning armor. Then a combination of the pike and the arquebus ended their dominance as heavier ball became capable of penetrating even the thickest armor and plate became too heavy to fully encase the body. In the early years of the HYW many knights still used small "heater shields."" In the later phases no shield and a complete suit of either "white" or "blackened" armor was most common among those who could afford it.

SimonGamer16 Jun 2020 3:32 a.m. PST

As Legionarius states by the later stages of the HYW shields were rarely used and as the Perry set is for 1415-1429 it certainly qualifies as later stage.

You can see some of my efforts with this set here

MrZorro24 Jun 2020 6:27 a.m. PST

Thank you guys for the information, interesting information and excellent pictures.

MrZorro24 Jun 2020 6:29 a.m. PST

They really used colorful lances during combat? I had the idea that they only used "flashy" colors during parades or jousting.

SimonGamer25 Jun 2020 12:38 a.m. PST

The painted lance was more part of a side painting joust with another person at the time :-)

Mostly I think single colour in livery colours -- but there is at least some evidence (albeit this is painted after the fact) of more colourful styles -- see one lance painted in the style of my knight (looks like a continental style of armour with the crest)


SHaT198408 Sep 2021 10:35 p.m. PST

>> interesting information and excellent pictures.

Yes, is there any further detail on shield cessation?
I've a bunch of Hotspur I've been painting up as a pseudo-Burgundian theme and wasn't aware of this limitation.
cheers dave

Atheling09 Sep 2021 1:47 a.m. PST
Atheling11 Sep 2021 1:10 a.m. PST

Can't edit my post above, I've just read the "Mounted" part! I don't have an images of any mounted Men at Arms at present.

My Just Add Water Miniature Painting Blog:

Shotandshell08 Oct 2021 11:32 a.m. PST


Sorry for the late response but you will find some mounted MAA's sprinkled throughtout my blog at Hope you will find something useful.


SHaT198413 Oct 2021 10:45 a.m. PST

Thanks Atheling and Mike,
I'd visited your blog via another link anyway!
Memories of Innsbruck, the Hafelcar etc. but my target then was the Napoleonics and hadn't encountered the medieval theme at all. Such a miss, obviously!
From one island dweller to another, cheers,
dave nz.

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