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Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2020 3:17 a.m. PST

I have been looking at the uniforms of Portuguese Cacadores for 1810 – 14. In particular I am trying to find something definitive about the distinctions between the 'ordinary' musket-armed cacadores and the rifle-armed atiradores. It seems definite that the cacadores had green plumes while the atiradores had black. However, there seems to be a question on the colour of the epaulette tufts. Some sources say all wore black while others suggest the cacadores had green and only the atiradores black

Can anyone cast a light on this?

Dave056415 Jun 2020 10:26 a.m. PST

Are these of any help?

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Prince of Essling15 Jun 2020 1:05 p.m. PST

For plumes the regulations for 1808 say :"os cacadores usarao de penacho verde; e os tiradores de penacho preto" which confirms your understanding.

However not seen confirmation on the tufts.. will keep on digging.

Artur Ribeiro's series of prints on the Portguese army has an atiradore with black tufts in 1808, and cacadore with black tufts in 1811.

Prince of Essling16 Jun 2020 1:16 a.m. PST

The Ribeiro plates:

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Will dig out Antonio Delgado da Silva "Collecção da legislação Portugueza desde aultima compilação das ordenações – Volumes 5 and 6" and check later.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 2:40 a.m. PST

Thanks for all this information. Black tufts for all seems to make sense.

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