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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Jun 2020 5:55 a.m. PST

Another 30 Elbe Landwehr Cavalry to add to the "First Fifteen" I showed earlier. Art Miniaturen, so, unusually for me, in 20mm scale (yes, I do now admit, there might just be a place for something between 18mm and TOTS, The One True Scale). Thanks again for the advice following my earlier posting. These worked out better and, although not shown here, they do have the black sword knot highlighted correctly. I really enjoyed working on these, they are superb miniatures.
They are a small contribution towards Thomaspicton's massive Waterloo project. This unit was a late arrival with II Corps 7th Brigade and directed to the very Southern flank of the attack on Plancenoit. I was going to follow up with the other squadron (3rd, these are 1st) with yellow epaulettes, but it may be that Prussian Dragoons would be of more use. Something to follow eventually whatever. Now I must get back to my 2emeDB in Paris 1944.

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thomaspicton12 Jun 2020 6:05 a.m. PST

Absolutely fantastic, the project is so lucky to have a painter of this quality. The studs on the lance pennant are amazing!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Jun 2020 7:45 a.m. PST

Cocktail stick. 90 black dots. Then 90 gold dots slightly smaller. I was going to do the epaulette buttons the same, as in the First Fifteen, but found it tended to mask the epaulettes, rather than enhance.

as before, these are nothing like as shiny as the photos suggest. To get this depth of focus needs a closed shutter and, so, several very bright spotlights.

In the post half an hour ago, but even the fastest post is slow now we were warned.

thomaspicton12 Jun 2020 9:52 a.m. PST

These guys definitely need to be near the edge of the diorama where they can be seen close up. Lucky that's the plan!

14Bore12 Jun 2020 3:05 p.m. PST

Fantastic job you have there

SHaT198412 Jun 2020 5:50 p.m. PST

I don't want to be mean, but I remember putting bolts like those on telegraph poles…
and why do some look like their about to blow their brains out?
troll d

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Jun 2020 11:57 p.m. PST

Thanks all.

Not mean at all. I was honestly not sure about the studs, but that was as small as I could get them. It was that doubt made me leave them off the epaulettes this time. I think en masse they look OK, but in that real close up photo….you are right.

The chaps blowing their brains out. That did raise a laugh. I was unsure about their pipes and went for a simple wooden effort. I do wonder if they should have been clay.

Finally, can I seek advice on sources of metal figures in 20mm scale? These are Art Miniaturen of course. Franz Nap are wonderful but do not do Prussians. Hagen I have just discovered, but the same applies. Google gives nothing but the best known plastics, whatever search terms I use

d88mm194013 Jun 2020 8:22 a.m. PST

Wow!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP13 Jun 2020 8:49 a.m. PST

Cheers. These were easy compared with today's work…… super detailing a 1/72 scale M20 Armoured car for Paris 44. Those headlamp guards, especially. Superglue, which sticks to forceps, fingers, even the work top, indeed anything but the blessed model.

SHaT198413 Jun 2020 4:35 p.m. PST

Aha pipes! Couldn't tell from the angle.
Yes I'd go pale clay coloured variations preferably- after all thats an industry thats been around since before you know who was a baby… thinking Austrian type souvenirs with fancy caps etc.
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nugrim13 Jun 2020 5:28 p.m. PST

They would gain from an ink wash

C M DODSON13 Jun 2020 11:57 p.m. PST

Hello Mr D.

I used a pale yellow for pipes.

Schilling figurines are wonderful.

However, they only do infantry to date.

Hagen is essentially Massimo Costa who also does Black Watch Minitures.

German and Italian genius.

Best wishes,

Chris

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2020 2:18 a.m. PST

For Prussians those are very nice indeed.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2020 2:50 a.m. PST

Thanks all yet again.

The ink wash. Absolutely. That was of course my intention, but I made two mistakes. One, I forgot to do it! Two, even if I had, the brown I used was far too dark to benefit (as say for the lances, where I used Chestnut Brown ink).

I will never be able to see these now without thinking of so many troopers wishing to end it all. That has raised quite a laugh in this household, all at my expense…..I should have researched German pipes more thoroughly. Indeed, I am sure I have seen many white clay pipes, claimed to have been salvaged from the field.

Hagen have impressed me, but next job today is to order some dragoons from Art Min.

Mysteron, I know exactly what you mean. Why do you think the project is short of Prussians? Nobody is keen to do units that may not have actually got there before dark and were a shabby lot, even in daylight. Even the dragoons. Lots of pale blue and either black or white facings and lace, for Waterloo. Maybe the odd chap in Green…….sob

14Bore14 Jun 2020 3:43 a.m. PST

On my tablet can only enlarge the picture so much,I thought they were smoking pipes. Some can be large but would expect the thin long one often painted with Blucher.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2020 4:18 a.m. PST

Now here was a surprise today. Going through many a box in the attic I found these painted some time between 1974-6. I thought I had only done one Elbe Landwehr and I thought they were long long gone. Instead a mixture of units, Hinchliffe figures in 25/28mm depending on your opinion, Humbrol enamels and kept in pitch darkness for decades. I obviously never did do the lances. Great fun cleaning up all the other blasts from the past too;

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rob polymathsw23 Jul 2020 7:12 a.m. PST

Wow, great photos, what a view…!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2020 8:06 a.m. PST

Cheers!

I am sure you are referring to the top ones, finished last month, not the bottom ones done well over 40 years ago. To be honest, I was impressed at the casting quality of these later Hinchliffe figures. I knew nothing of shading, washes and highlights in those days, whilst Haythornthwaite was just about my sole reference. But, allowing for limited wear and tear and layers of dust, these are better than I remembered them!

thomaspicton23 Jul 2020 3:56 p.m. PST

How interesting to see the difference – I have plenty of Hinton Hunt, Alberken, les Higgins and other vintage figures in the diorama, but sadly always felt Hinchliffe were too big.

Widowson24 Jul 2020 5:27 p.m. PST

Hinchliffe WERE too big. They were the beginning of "scale creep" that eventually got us what we now call 28mm, which are really huge next to "true 25s," or what we now call 1/72.

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