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06 Jun 2020 6:03 p.m. PST
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Wargamorium06 Jun 2020 3:19 p.m. PST


Can anyone suggest a SYW rule set where one base represents one battalion. I am thinking of 10mm figures.


Generalstoner4906 Jun 2020 3:21 p.m. PST

For King or Empress or Volley and Bayonet come to mind.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jun 2020 5:14 p.m. PST

The Polemos system uses one base = 1 battalion

rmaker06 Jun 2020 5:27 p.m. PST

Jack Scruby's Strategy-Tactical War Game. Available from Historifigs.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2020 5:57 p.m. PST

Jeremy Jarvis' From Marlborough to Frederick. It's in Practical Wargamer Vol 11, No. 2. Or you can use the Wesencraft Army Corps rules with a little modification. Unless I missed an edition, V&B is base=regiment rather than base=battalion, but probably close enough.

Memento Mori06 Jun 2020 10:56 p.m. PST

Another vote for Polemos – 10mm figures are good for this system and look great in the mass formations

Wargamorium07 Jun 2020 4:07 a.m. PST

Many thanks to people for responding.

I looked up 'For King and Empress'but the reviews are mixed and there are few comments on the mechanisms. Has anybody played them?

coopman07 Jun 2020 1:52 p.m. PST

I don't have them so I am not sure about the scale, but check out Nick Dorrell's "Twilight of the Soldier Kings" and see if they might work.

Wargamorium07 Jun 2020 11:33 p.m. PST

Thanks Coopman.

A friend of mine has a copy and I will see what he thinks. He likes Twilight of the Sun King rules for the WSS.


79thPA Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2020 6:37 a.m. PST

I have only played two games with "For King and Empress" and both of those were at conventions. I don't recall the mechanics, but they were a fun set of rules, and they appeared to be a pretty good convention set because it didn't take long to figure things out.

Wargamorium08 Jun 2020 12:47 p.m. PST

Thanks for that. I have now purchased a copy of For King or Empress from Wargames Vault and at first glance they seem to fit the bill. Quite an interesting read actually.

V&B also under consideration.

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2020 7:14 p.m. PST

"For King and Empress", can anyone tell me what the actual stand sizes are? What is an unit (any pictures seem to show 2 stands, one behind the other)? How many figures per stand for infantry, cavalry and artillery? Are some (Austrian for example) larger than others?


Steamingdave212 Jun 2020 10:50 a.m. PST

Twilight Rules generally use "brigades" as units, but there is no reason why you cannot scale it down. I have played smaller LoA battles with the original rules and called units "battalions"

Glorfindel77713 Jun 2020 1:48 p.m. PST

Black Powder would work fine here.

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