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Tango0128 May 2020 3:43 p.m. PST

Nice WIP…
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Tango0129 May 2020 3:07 p.m. PST

Bad…? or because it's 1/72?…

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Stoppage29 May 2020 6:17 p.m. PST

I think everyone is asleep.

Au pas de Charge29 May 2020 8:13 p.m. PST

There was Spanish horse artillery?

keithbarker30 May 2020 3:35 a.m. PST

@Minipigs – Yes there was Spanish Horse Artillery

Information on Spanish Artillery: link

SHaT198430 May 2020 4:53 p.m. PST

>>There was Spanish horse artillery?

On whose side?
Those are quite 'early French' styles showing…

<>They were 4-pdr guns which had been bored out to take an 8-pdr shot.

Err, then they weren't 4 punders any more… can't have had a long-life expectancy… teehee…

Er yes, nice modelling!
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Tango0130 May 2020 8:34 p.m. PST

Glad you like them my friend!. (smile)


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Stoppage31 May 2020 12:36 p.m. PST

I thought horse artillery with larger pieces used empty shell cases (when not firing canister).

So light 12-lbers would use empty 12-lb shell cases.

So the re-bored 4 lber would use 8 lber empty shell case.

Au pas de Charge31 May 2020 12:59 p.m. PST

I knew someone would post something like that.

OK, so if you call yourself horse artillery and you dont have any horses, you're still a horse artillery unit?


I can live with that.

My Neapolitan Guard will be delighted to know they can go head to head with anyone's guard.


I cant wait to add a set to my Spanish army.

Major Bloodnok31 May 2020 1:07 p.m. PST

Shell cases? Perhaps I am missing something in translation. As far as I know the rounds themselves were a charge of powder, in a cloth bag, tied to the bottom of the sabot holding the roundshot or the tin cannister round. I don't understand where the shell case comes in, but then there is a lot of things I don't understand.

Stoppage01 Jun 2020 2:50 p.m. PST

Sorry – should have written empty "common shell" – you know the classic "bomb" with fuse.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Jun 2020 3:11 a.m. PST

How interesting. I had never heard of an artillery unit firing an empty "common shell"…..to act as roundshot, but without HE contentto save weight. Considering that, against any "softskin target" it is velocity not mass that counts, must wonder why "hollow" rounds were not more common. If it stayed intact it would do just as much damage surely (I think)

von Winterfeldt03 Jun 2020 2:17 a.m. PST

From Agathon von Bahr on a napoleon forum

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"Por consiguiente, serán mas oportunos para esta Artillería Volante unos cañones de a 4, y unos

licomes (1) u obus-cañon formando con los mismos cañones de á 4; pues esto s, agrandadas sus ánimas, arrojarán unas granadas del calibre de las balas de á 8, y la metralla del mismo calibre.

¿ Quien dudará que estas piezas serán las mas ventajosas para el uso de la Artillería Volante con nuestra Caballeria ?


Teniendo estos licornes y cañones de á 4 la fuerza y alcance necesario ó bien para desordenar.


(1) Licorne es un canon de menos, longitud ,y refuerzos que los correspondientes á su calibre destinado á tirar granadas y metralla. Los rusos, que les han dado el nombre, los usan de todos. calibres en lugar de obuses.": link

Brechtel19804 Jun 2020 9:02 a.m. PST

The Spanish artillery arm adopted the French Gribeauval System and so used the field pieces for both foot and horse artillery.

Brechtel19804 Jun 2020 9:04 a.m. PST

In the picture of the gun crew above, the field piece should have two handspikes for pointing the piece. One gunner would use both at once to move the gun tube left and right directing by the gunner who is behind the gun tube pointing the piece.

Information on the Spanish artillery arm can be found in Rene Chartrand's Ospreys on the Spanish army of the period.

138SquadronRAF05 Jun 2020 7:39 a.m. PST

in the picture of the gun crew above, the field piece should have two handspikes for pointing the piece. One gunner would use both at once to move the gun tube left and right directing by the gunner who is behind the gun tube pointing the piece

Agreed, I don't know of a manufacturer in any scale does a French, or gunner for an army using the Gribeauval system, two handspikes.

I only know of one manufacture, GHQ in 10mm, that models Gribeauval guns with twin handspikes attached to the gun.

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