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Paskal Supporting Member of TMP26 May 2020 11:48 a.m. PST

Good morning all ,

As I have never seen in real life,who could tell me about the appearance of the 25mm Battle Honors figures from their range entitled: 25mm 1859/66/70 Franco-Austrian And Franco Prussian War …

They are compatible with which more traditional figurines over the same period ?

Thank you,

Bargain Bin DM26 May 2020 12:12 p.m. PST

..they are compatible with Foundry's FPW series. I just finished 8 units of their 1866 Austrian infantryman and have a 12 figure hussar unit on the painting table. I highly recommend them!

AGregory26 May 2020 1:36 p.m. PST


They are nice clean figures – decent poses. I am just now painting a bunch of Saxons for 1866. They are maybe not large enough to match some more modern sculpts, but do fit well with Foundry. My Prussians are mostly from North Star 1866, and they are also pretty compatible with those (at least on the same table they are not jarring. The NS figs are maybe a bit larger – they might not mix in a single Austrian unit very well).

I would recommend them, and (sadly this is relevant) my last order from 19th Century Miniatures (during the current pandemic) was filled in quite a reasonable time, despite the warning note on their website. Not any slower than usual.


A. Gregory

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP26 May 2020 2:54 p.m. PST

I love them..great pricing and nice castings perfect with Foundry and Castaway arts..Always good service.

Wargamer Blue26 May 2020 4:11 p.m. PST

I like them too.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP26 May 2020 10:54 p.m. PST

Hello and thank you all ,

AGregory wrote "I am just now painting a bunch of Saxons for 1866" …
Well done, but what documentation is there to paint these 1866 Saxon figurines and organize 1866 Saxon units?
And how to do for the Saxon cavalry in 1866?

PS:I also have another problem, that of the German 91mm krupp artillery guns in 1870-71.
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Thank you.

AGregory27 May 2020 5:42 a.m. PST


My sources:

Sapherson's booklet "The Seven Weeks War" (out of print)

The "Wargaming in History" vol 8, "The Austro-Prussian War of 1866: Opening Battles"

Some plates here:




These sources and a couple of others are listed out on my site at:

Since I am running grand-tactical games, I can get away with knowing the regimental organization and strengths – I have not found a good source for the details.

Don't ask me about the cavalry – I am probably have to sculpt those myself (and I am not a very good sculptor!)

The figures are wearing the peaked fatigue cap, which agrees with all the depictions I have seen of the Saxons in 1866.

If you have good sources, please tell!

I cannot help you with the gun, I am afraid!


A. Gregory

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2020 9:39 a.m. PST

No, but the allies of Austria in 1866, this is a good idea, now there must be some documentation on the subject.

AGregory27 May 2020 10:19 a.m. PST


I have a copy of Michael Embree's book for the Main Campaigns, and that is quite good, but it does not cover the Saxons since they didn't fight in that theatre.

I have heard that there is some good unpublished material on "minor" participants in 1866 (e.g., not the Prussians or Austrians) – if you go to the Facebook group on the topic (used to be the Blood & Iron Yahoo group) you might discover who has any available material. I think at one point Helion was going to publish a book on it, but then did not. (I forget who told me this, but it was someone on that group.)


A. Gregory

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP28 May 2020 7:24 a.m. PST

In any case I would like to know the size of these figurines from their eyes to the soles of their feet, comparative photos with other figurines dealing with the same period exist?

Bargain Bin DM28 May 2020 8:09 a.m. PST

…to the best of my knowledge the BH minis were designed to be compatible with the Wargames Foundry FPW range. To my eye there is no size difference between the two ranges. I just posted some comparison photos of BH, WF and Shako 64 minis on the "19th (1815-1914) Century Warfare and Wargaming" Facebook page yesterday if you'd like to see a physical comparison..

AGregory29 May 2020 7:38 p.m. PST


I just got an order from Spencer Smith today – figures from his "Classic" line of Franco-Prussian figures. They are a good mix with the BH figures, and he has some lines (including 1859 Austrians) which are very nice. The line also has Bavarians, Prussians, Wurttembergers, and Brunswickers, with all arms represented for most of them.

The poses are perhaps on the stiff side, but there is coverage here for figures nobody else currently does, so far as I know.


A. Gregory

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2020 7:07 a.m. PST

It seems that their guns are very huge ..?

AGregory30 May 2020 9:18 a.m. PST


Hard to say, since I didn't order any (except a mitrailleuse).


A. Gregory

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2020 10:41 p.m. PST


I saw the spencer smith miniature mitrailleuse, it is successful, indeed that of foundry is not the Mitrailleuse de Reffye called canon à balles in the army of Napoleon III but the mitrailleuse of Montigny …

But the mitrailleuse of Montigny is very close to the Mitrailleuse de Reffye.

It was developed in Liège in 1867, by Major Forberry and Mr. Metford.

The maneuvering of the movable cylinder heads is done with levers instead of a crank; the trigger plate is full instead of being pierced with holes.

The first models have 31 guns, then the number of guns goes to 37 while the caliber is reduced from 13 to 11mm.

These early models generally have two cranks.

Subsequently, the rear screw and crank are replaced by a lever that is lifted to loosen the breech cage.

Austria-Hungary adopted this mitrailleuse and ensured the manufacture of a hundred copies at the Steyr factory.

France will acquire less than a hundred different models (used in 1870-71). But also Portugal, Spain, Holland, Turkey, Persia, China.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2020 3:57 a.m. PST

… And the reference FPPG002 Prussian 90mm Krupp Field Gun of foundry is the 9 cm Kanone C / 73 and it's was a field gun developed after the Franco-Prussian War and used by Germany before and during World War I.

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