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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2020 10:04 p.m. PST

… from Ryton Publishing / Feist Books…

"A new book combining the talents of both Robert Johnson & Uwe Feist has just been released. The subject of the book is the captured machines and equipment of the enemy in German hands during the Second World War. It is rare to see the myriad of captured equipment in enemy hands so this book is a good place to start. Let's have a look at what is promised in this title in our review…"

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RudyNelson21 May 2020 10:11 p.m. PST

The 1950s VFW illustrated history and the Official US Army illustrated histories have photos of both captured German and recaptured from the Germans ex-allied vehicles. Including a JU87 with Italian and British markings on it. Shot down in Italy.

Uparmored In the TMP Dawghouse22 May 2020 1:37 a.m. PST

Total war is cool. Whatever it takes to win…

wmyers22 May 2020 1:42 a.m. PST

It would be nice to have the impressions of those that operated the vehicles as much as possible and any documents about the testing/trials/operational service/etc.

Richard Baber22 May 2020 4:16 a.m. PST

I must have 150+ images just off Goggle and Ebay of Beute (captured) stuff in German service plus 4 or 5 books on the subject (and numerous photos in other books too) :)

This subject is a bottomless pit, I have a copy of everyone of those images – so what is new?? The page marked United States above shows three images of a BRITISH Sherman Firefly captured in Normandy these photos appeared in Bruce Quarrie`s "Panzers in North West Europe" published in 1979

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2020 7:25 a.m. PST

With you, wmyers. I have seen German comments about how impressed they were with the reliability of captured Shermans. (They don't seem as enthused about the main gun or the armor.)

I'd really love to hear something from that German T-34 reconditioning plant in Kiev--both Germans talking about captured Russian equipment, and the Russians on the plant when they took back Kiev.

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2020 9:34 a.m. PST

But does the book list units that used captured AFVs and in what numbers?

Legion 422 May 2020 1:08 p.m. PST

If it worked the Germans painted an iron cross on it and used it. They had to, they were stretch all thru, West & East Europe and, until '43, North Africa …

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2020 2:33 p.m. PST

Dan, there was a series some while back. "Captured French Tanks in German Service" and "Captured Russian Tanks in German Service" covers almost everything someone standardized on--well, depending on how you feel about the Skoda Works. You might have to add maybe a company of Matildas and a couple companies of Stuarts in North Africa. But once you've got past that, it's driver training schools, rear echelon defense--think FT-17s at German airfields--or ones and twos of units primarily equipped with something else. Do you really care WHICH fallschirmjaeger division might have had a captured Sherman? Surely it's enough for a skirmish game to know that every now and then one showed up?

Uparmored In the TMP Dawghouse22 May 2020 4:43 p.m. PST

They sure went to town with the German crosses on captured vehicles and you can understand why, I guess fratricide was a constant risk while using enemy vehicles.

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2020 9:30 p.m. PST

Thanks, Robert. I was trying to grasp if one is talking about a single captured vehicle in use for very tactical games or companies of captured vehicles for operation level games.

Easy to incorporate a single vehicle in a skirmish game, but if playing at a level of say a base = a platoon or company, it would be nice to know if such existed.

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