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Just Jack Supporting Member of TMP20 May 2020 6:38 p.m. PST

All,

Somewhere in Normandy, August 1944, the US Army is about to scrap it up with the Wehrmacht. The inspiration for this fought is brought to you by my buddy "Thuseld," who posted this little gem:
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He has owned the Battlegroup rules for awhile but not gotten them on the table until recently; seeing his batrep reminded me that I, too, have the Battlegroup rules, and that I've never gotten them onto the table. I will say that the main reason I haven't gotten them onto the table is because I only have the core rules, none of the supplements, I don't want to spend a bunch of money on one of the book supplements, and I can't seem to find any of them as PDFs, even though it appears such things exist. Nevertheless, with Thuseld providing the 'Battle Rating' for each force, I felt like I had enough to go on and play a game, so I did.

And I didn't just play a game, I got a chance to play with my two boys, which made it that much more fun and interesting!

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Overview, north is up, with the Amis entering from the west (left) and the Germans from the east (right).

Scenario: Attack/Counterattack. The Americans have broken out of the bocage, finally. To try and stem the tide a Wehrmacht platoon is sent to fortify the village on the main road of advance. They might, however, be too late. The objectives are three: the hill at top center (Hill 50), the woods at center bottom (between the four sets of fields), and the house at dead center.

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The opposing forces, with Germans on left and US on right. The two sides are exactly matched for a perfectly 'fair' wargame ;) Thuseld had the Americans with a BR of 18 and the Germans 16, but I gave both sides 18 so it would be fair.

The troops are all 15mm Battlefront figures, while the mat is from The Wargaming Company, the roads are from Fat Frank, the flat fields are from Hotz Mats, the high fields are from Terran4Games, and the hedges, trees, and buildings are from Crescent Root Studios.

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The German Panther has hit a mine, but other than the crew being a bit shook up, it's just fine.

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As the Americans boldly push into the village, securing two of the three objectives.

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But the Sherman runs into some problems of its own.

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The Germans counter.

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Vicious hand-to hand combat breaks out!

To see how the fight turned out, please check the blog at:
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I really enjoyed this, the first time I've really had both boys playing a game against each other. I liked the rules, particularly the 'Battle Rating' piece (though I laughed at how we somehow drew three mine strikes out of twelve total chit pulls!), but I feel like I still need something a bit more pared down to play with the boys and keep their interest.

I'd love to slim these rules down a bit and come back to them, but I can tell you we've already planned our next game together: Osprey's "Black Ops," coming soon.

V/R,
Jack

McWong7320 May 2020 7:33 p.m. PST

Great stuff. FoW didn't grab them? I find both systems sit just to the side of each other, FoW does a good job of abstracting and BG for an increased level of granularity.

Uparmored21 May 2020 3:19 a.m. PST

I'm messing with Battlegroup Cold War fan mod.

Love the casualty markers!! Nice n bloody!

Just Jack Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2020 7:50 p.m. PST

McWong – Thanks, and we actually haven't tried Flames of War. Maybe some day, just too many projects going on right now.

Uparmored – Sounds cool, now hurry up and get them 20mm badasses you've been working on into action!

V/R,
Jack

VonBlucher28 May 2020 5:46 p.m. PST

Hard to miss Crescent Root Buildings, hedges and trees. Nice to see some else purchase these beauties before they went OP. Did you also pick up a mat for the set? The PDF's were only available when a book was out of print, but they have reprinted all the older books. There are some scenario pdf's on the Facebook page for Battlegroup.

Just Jack Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2020 6:50 a.m. PST

VB,

Yes, I've bought some of their new stuff, but the old stuff was even better, and I wish I'd have bought more of the trees and hedges, and more of the 'peripherals' for their Middle East stuff (some walls and sidewalks/islands).

Ahh, I see; I'm a big fan of PDFs and really wish they were available now. I mistakenly bought the Tunisia PDF thinking it was the supplement, but it was just a campaign (still useful, but not what I needed).

V/R,
Jack

VonBlucher29 May 2020 7:57 p.m. PST

Just Jack,
I bought a full set with the damaged upper floors one of each trees & Shrubs and the mat just after they first came out. When they announced that range was being discontinued, I bought a complete 2nd group but the shrubs were already discontinued but bought 3 sets of trees and the 2 new farm sets which were MDF and printed. The farms sets were discontinued at the same time. I was not impressed by them at all. Interesting note though I have never seen a set of the MDF building ever go up on EBAY or any place else. Also built and painted some Sarissa Precision items and they match up very well with the MDF Crescent Root buildings, unlike the 4Ground buildings.

Just Jack Supporting Member of TMP05 Jun 2020 7:09 p.m. PST

Yeah, I've got quite a bit of their new 15mm (all the brick factory stuff, some of the farm and Middle East stuff) and I like it, but I'm with you, the old stuff was pure magic.

V/R,
Jack

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