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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 May 2020 8:15 a.m. PST

You were asked – TMP link

In many gaming groups, one (or more) person is the Front Man. He is the expert for an era, chooses the rules, and has the most figures. He decides scales and unit level. Are you a front man?

42% said "no"
41% said "yes"

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP16 May 2020 8:42 a.m. PST

I'm surprised it was that close.

Reductio ad absurdum:

All games have only two players. All sets of games have a frontman.

The distribution is 50%-50%


Games have an average of 4 players.

The distribution is 75%-25%


20% of games don't have a frontman.

The distribution is 80% (75% of the 80% + the extra 20%) – 20%

Bascially, as you add realistic assumptions, you move the frontman percentage further in the minority.


Solo play. Solo players would be by definition the frontman. So, in the above example, they would be added to the initial split toward more frontmen.

There would have to be a very high percentage of solo play to offset the other conditions, and even a fairly high percentage to significantly move the needle.

willthepiper16 May 2020 9:12 a.m. PST

The other aspect is that there are many games. I am the front man for some games, but not for others.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2020 9:11 p.m. PST

I do not understand the comment above, "All games have only two players." Our group has on average 6 players per game, sometimes more. Perhaps etotheipi meant that all games have at least 2 players. Various of the players in the group are "frontmen." Ditto to willthepiper. Some never, some frequently. I am for Congo Adventure, DBA, Hordes of the Think, Flying Lead.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP19 May 2020 1:14 p.m. PST

"All games have only two players." Was the reductio ad absurdum baseline argument. If you assume that and the other baseline assumption, that every game has a frontman, then only 50% of people are frontmen.

As you move away from the baseline to a more reasonable context, you only reduce the percentage of frontment. Two to three per game makes it 33 1/3% frontmen to 66 2/3% not. Four makes it 25% frontmen, and so on.

Likewise, if you reduce the number of games with a frontman, the percentage keeps going down.

There is a mild possibility of uptick for solo games, but that is unlikely to overcome the large influence making frontmen rare.

The many games aspect is actually orthogonal to the percentage with respect to the whole population.

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