"28mm Plastic Levy/Peasants" Topic

I'm, looking for some 28mm Levy or Peasants to make up 24 man unit(maybe 2) for Wotr. I can find some in metal, but mirliton dont seem to have a uk stockist and ordering direct makes it very pricey(£51 for 18 figures). Gripping Beast Peasants are nice but there only 4 poses. Theres various other metal ones, but in poses of 6 and 8 and it soon gets pricey. Fireforge do a plastic rabble but 50% are women and I think they are bigger. I was thinking Dark Age spear men from Gripping beast but they mostly have shields and look a bit dark ages not wotr.

Has anyone any better ideas ? I'd like more peasanty than Billman types, ideally pitchforks and the like. Are there any ancient unarmoured spearmen, though ideally with shoes that would do for 1400's?

Ideally plastic, I've got used to Perry wotr prices at 50p a figure now.

Take a dekko at the Fireforge Folk Rabble
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yeah I'd seen those. But 50% of the sprue are women, and I wasnt sure about the size, arent these meant to be Heroic 28mm. I'm using with Perrys, Dont want giant women levy :-). I could buy 2 boxes and not use women, still cheaper than metal, if the size is right

Might be worth a look at the Frostgrave soldiers box. They're pretty much covered in heavy clothing, so they won't do if you're after summer costumes. Also you'll need to find pitchforks &c from somewhere else. Still, it might give you some inspiration…

Heads and arms from some Fireforge Feudal infantry sprues can be fairly easily made to adapt to the 6 lightly armoured torsos on the Agincourt archers sprue.

Cannot vouchesafe that for the peasant weapons on the FF box though but it still might be an option. Those Perry heads were too small on those particular FF torsos however.

I did the Old Glory 28's. I think the pack is revolting Mob or something like that. 1400's? not sure. Some have clubs, some nothing. Good luck.

I second the Old Glory 25s.

It's Revolting Peasants and they are quite varied in poses.

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There is a UK stockist:

oldgloryuk.com

I don't see those sets listed but try contacting them.

The old glory ones look good, I'll have to contact the uk stockist. Says 25mm on the page though, are they the right size?
The frost grave ones look fun too, are they heroic scale too though?
(I looked for a frostgrave fireforge Perry comparison but in some photos they look too big in, others they are ok)

Old Glory 25mm medievals will work great with Perry, being either right at or slightly smaller in size. I have some, and a ton of HYW Old Glory, and they work fine together with Perry.

Look up the figure sprues for GW's Mordheim. Those were kind of 'peasant-y' IIRC…

If you are using Perry plastics, then how about converting a bunch of those? On every sprue there are 3 unarmoured bodies, and another couple of bodies that have a bit of jack showing underneath the clothes that could be easily disguised with a bit of converting. There is also a decent number of non-helmeted heads spread through the various sprues (don't forget the light cavalry one). The challenge would be with the armaments, but if you have large enough bits box (or friend with one) it should not be too tough to find some clubs, hammers, axes, staves, slings, rocks, spears, falchions, bills, carrots, daggers etc.

Only 1/3 of the Fireforge rabble are women.

Yet another example of subtle sexism.

Are you sure you want peasant levy troops? I know it's the sort of thing that wargame manufacturers (and Victorian antiquarians) like, but is there any reason to think that they are a feature of WotR?

Turns out old glory uk do do peasants, but covid19 means no stock. If fireforge are 1/3 women I might go that route after all, I do like the looks of them if they are not too big.( except covid19 means they've run out too)

Did they have peasant troops, well they had levy troops, and I'll use them for hyw French levy too. I mean I could use unarmoured billmen, but I wanted to add a bit of colour. My main opponent is my 12 year old son, who thinks peasants with pitchforks are funny and it distinguishes them from regular troops. So rule of cool.

Speaking of HYW French levy, Perrys produce three packs of peasants in their Agincourt to Orleans range. Pack AO34 includes armed peasants with pitchfork, flail, spear and large cudgels. The other two packs, AO35 and AO36, are not so well armed.

Heres the Fireforge peasants painted up. They're spot on for what I wanted, and a much meaner bunch than those Perry loligagers

Theres a couple of Fireforge foot sergeants and a Front rank archer in there to make up the number too.

Nice unit!

How did the size turn out in regards to the Perry figures?

These armed peasants are on deck for me to paint. Maybe they'll fit the bill for you: link

"How did the size turn out in regards to the Perry figures?"
They are broader but the same height. They fit the front rank archer perfectly. The perry figures are slimmer and don't go with Front rank or fireforge at all. Happy to have them on the same table, but I wouldn't mix them in the same unit. In the background of the above photo are some perry crossbowmen.

When I did Napoleonics I mixed figures from lots of different manufacturers in the same unit no problem. With medieval the size seems to vary a lot. I bought some 1st corps knights and 1 was noticeably smaller than the rest, even from the same pack.

I think the perry figures are super slim so I dont think other manufactures mix well in the same unit. The peasants are great as their own unit though. I still have another box to do.

People mentioned Perry's and GW, but not the bretonian peasant regiment, if still available??

The problem is that by WOTR the fashion has changed even from the HYW, the Perry HYW are good from the waist up and you cpuld mix in some of the Fireforge. But your still missing men in doublets with one piece hosen.

@dapeters – Not too bothered if they are slightly out of fashion, they are peasants and it was before primark did doublet and hose for a shilling. I'm using them for HYW and Wotr so big pointy pitchforks were the main priority, rather than the clothing being of the mode :-)

Most peasants probably got their clothes third-hand from a charity market, anyway.

Most peasants made their own clothes including homespun fabric. For really poor people they would have used whatever fibre was available including human hair.

There were second hand cloth merchants who took old clothes and cut out useful bits such as a row of button holes to sew onto a new tunic, or a sleeve in good condition. Colour didn't matter too much as clothes might get redyed to make them look newer so any patches would be dyed the same colour and blend in.

HappyHiker a billhook is an agricultural tool as well.

Henry and Damion peasant can be anything from a wealthy farmer to an impoverish outlaw(medieval meaning of the word) if the later, probably to feeble to use a weapon. If one only has the shirt on ones back it wears out kind of fast.

An agricultural billhook is not a same thing as a military-purpose job; it's like comparing airsofts and assault rifles. It's no clear to me what these peasant-types are for? They are not a feature of medieval war, so is his for a fantasy HYW/WotR project?

"They are not a feature of medieval war,"
Well, hyw and wotr had levy, I assume that's not in dispute? Jean d'Arc raised a town levy at Orleans, and there's various examples in wotr. (Bear in mind I read Wikipedia sometimes). Now did the levy have pitchforks and contain women? Or was it town militia, and look remarkably like every non levy troop? Who knows, we weren't there, but we wanted the levy to look different then just less armoured guys so I invoke the rule of cool. Now my idea of cool might be different to other people's, but then they are clearly wrong 😃

The women were a bit of a push, but that's what came in the box. Ones got a broom, which is a bit sexist but I thought it was funny.

Does that make it fantasy? Who cares, it's just toy soldiers. ( sorry I don't take it that seriously, and I don't mean to offend anyone who does. I enjoy the historical research up to a point but y'know I like the sharpe books and Conn Iggulden Series too.)

People mentioned Perry's and GW, but not the bretonian peasant regiment, if still available??

I was under the impression that GW has discontinued the production of the Bretonnian range, though there are probably a variety of sets floating on the second hand market.

However, I do not see either of the two Bretonnian plastic infantry sets fitting the requirements set by HappyHiker: unarmoured commoners with pointy sticks but no shields. Bretonnian men-at-arms set comes with a variety of pointy sticks, but the bodies are armoured and have shields moulded on to their left arms, while the Bretonnian bowmen kit comes with bows.

No, they brought out a peasant regiment. I remember pitchforks. Could be wrong. I'll have a good look for them. It would have been near the end?

Women with brooms aren't sexist, especially in the "olden days", but even today. Saying women are too dirty to use a broom, may be, but back then everyone was dirty anyway. Is a chap with a pitchfork sexist? What about a gun, why is it men portrayed carrying guns more then women?? I shouldn't mention current events, but sometimes it seems things are only deemed sexist, or what have you, because of the type of person involved, not the intent. Food for thought.

What about when the peasants are revolting, UFB?

I know… the peasants are always revolting.

No, they brought out a peasant regiment. I remember pitchforks. Could be wrong. I'll have a good look for them.

There was a Warhammer zombie regiment (released around 1998 or 1999) that included pitchforks and some other agricultural tools. Some people are known to have adapted those to convert other figures, e.g. Empire militia.

Warmaster Bretonnian range actually had a pack of peasants with a variety of agricultural tools, released in 2001. However, this set was in 10 mm scale, and I am not aware of anything similar being done in 28 mm (except back in the 80´s).

It was probably the bowmen with defences I'm thinking of, mixed with the Warmaster unit/possible white dwarf conversions. I can't find any trace otherwise. Time plays it's tricks again. Oh well.

Time plays it's tricks again.

It is not just time, there is so much product available these days that sometimes things tend to get a bit mixed up between all of them. Seems to happen to a lot of people (me included) every now and then.