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Tango0104 May 2020 8:56 p.m. PST


"No sooner had the U.S. Revolution ended than U.S. expansionists began looking south and southwest toward lands controlled by Spain.

The personification of this complicated project was the American poet-politician Joel Barlow. As a poet, he worked on creating public sentiment to annex Spanish lands, and, wearing his political hat, he pursued that agenda. Barlow is largely a forgotten figure today, but the myths he helped create remain with us.

Barlow was the likely author of the 1792 manuscript "Plan proposť pour faire une revolution dans la Louisiane" ("Proposal to Incite a Revolution in Louisiana"). The proposal detailed an illegal plot to incite a rebellion against the Spanish in Louisiana that would result in the transfer of sovereignty in the region back to the U.S.-friendly French. Such a transfer, according to the plan, would liberate the hemisphere from Spain's policies of discouraging her colonies from international trade while increasing commercial opportunities for the fledgling United States. The manuscript was circulated between French and U.S. agents and French authorities, was likely intercepted by the Spanish, and is now housed in the Spanish archives of foreign correspondence. (It was republished in the 1896 Annual Report of the American Historical Association.)…"
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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP05 May 2020 3:00 a.m. PST

Fourth article in five days on how wonderful and helpful Spanish-speaking people are and how mean English-speakers are to them. None give me anything with which I can create scenarios, modify rules or paint castings.

For this, I go to

Tango0105 May 2020 12:05 p.m. PST

So… you consider the articles are a fake?… .. or you only have problems with Spanish people? …


robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP05 May 2020 3:21 p.m. PST

I don't have troubles with any race or language group, Armand. But there's an old joke about the need for "an unbiased history of the American Civil War--from the Confederate point of view." You don't have to falsify facts if you select them carefully enough to support a predetermined conclusion. Purely as examples: you are never, ever going to post a link to an article in which the Mexican experience in 1830's Texas is a cautionary tale--a warning about accepting too many immigrants of another culture. And you'll never post a link to an article writing that Canada may well owe its independence to the United States--both as an warning to the British Empire not to govern too closely and as an outright menace to the colonial power following 1865.

As I wrote, I can get all of this I want from news aggregators like realclearpolitics or MSN. Here on the Miniatures Page, there should be some concern with miniatures, or at least with military history. Do as you please, but if you're entitled to post, I am surely entitled to a bleat of protest about appropriate and inappropriate venues.

Tango0106 May 2020 12:29 p.m. PST



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