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Alan M30 Apr 2020 10:40 a.m. PST

I am particularly interested in the uniforms of Georgia and North Carolina Continentals. Particularly for the period from the capture of Savannah to the fall of Charlestown.

I have assumed that the majority would be in hunting shirts, but would like to include a few in regimentals/uniforms.

Can anyone either provide details or point me in the right direction please.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2020 11:05 a.m. PST

North Carolina received blue coats faced red and, later, were authorized blue faced with a lighter blue, but probably never received them. Brown faced white or red could also be used for early war. Most NC continental line fought in the north for most of the war.

Bill N30 Apr 2020 12:31 p.m. PST

For South Carolina there is some evidence they were headed towards black coats faced red, at least for the 1st through 4th regiments, during the 1778-1780 period. Maybe some were still in earlier blue faced red. Hunting shirts were issued earlier in the war and I have seen references to some members of the 2nd and 3rd wearing them while others in those regiments wore regimentals.

There is also a 1778 deserter description of a Georgia continental wearing the black faced red uniform, suggesting that at least some Georgia continentals tapped into the same supply source as SC. However there are other deserter descriptions for Georgia for the same period for blue coats edged with white or red. My guess is that Georgia continentals were wearing whatever they could get.

For the North Carolina troops raised before 1779 who served with Washington and then were captured at Charleston, they should have been issued blue faced red during the winter of 1778/79 from stores up north. I have nothing on what the North Carolina troops raised in 1779 who fought in the southern campaign that year wore. A couple of references to them suggest they didn't have access to northern supply sources. The North Carolina continentals raised in 1781 according to one source served in whatever clothing they brought from home.

Rudysnelson30 Apr 2020 6:30 p.m. PST

It took a while to find the American Revolution uniform articles that we did for Time Portal Passages via Magweb back in the early 2000s.
The 1779 uniform for Georgia and North Carolina Contnentals was blue coats, mid-blue facings and white small clothes with white pants.
Georgia State and local raised units had a variety of uniforms.
The Georgia Brigade, and Georgia Volunteers wore hunting frocks with no specific fringe colors. GA Bde wore frock pants and floppy wide brim hats. The GA Vol wore a mix of pants and hats.
Jackson Legion foot wore white frock coats with blue fringe, a mix of pants and floppy wide brim hats.
Jackson Legion Mounted wore buff coats, buff small clothes, buff pants and blue facing trim, with light dragoon caps.
1179 GA Light Horse wore red coats, blue facings, red small clothes, buff pants with no conclusive evidence of a hat type.
GA 1779 1st Dragoon's wore blue coat, red facings, white small clothes, buff pants and a Light dragoon cap.
I thought the arty crews were interesting. The enlisted wore white hunting frocks with white pants and tricornes.
Arty no and officers wore blue coats with red facings, white small clothes, white pants, and a tricorne.

Rudysnelson30 Apr 2020 6:37 p.m. PST

North Carolina State Regiments wore blue coats, red facings and tricorne. Most wore white pants.
North Carolina State Militia regiments 1779-81 wore gray hunting frockswith a mix of head gear and pants.
The 3rd North Carolina State Rgt in 1776-79 wore hunting frocks, light gray pants with some may being hunting frocks, and a wide brim floppy hat unturned on one side.

Alan M30 Apr 2020 10:53 p.m. PST

This is great, many thanks.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP01 May 2020 1:00 p.m. PST

The Charleston History Museum has uniforms of the 1st South Carolina regiment with blue coat, red facings and white vest and britches. They wore a cap with a front plate with the crescent moon symbol. This covered the period up to the surrender of Charleston.

Alan M02 May 2020 4:07 a.m. PST

Interesting. I had a quick look on their site, there is a photo but I can't quite tell whether it has long or short turnbacks. Ard you able to confirm one or the other please?

Brechtel19802 May 2020 5:42 a.m. PST

If anyone has access to the uniform cards that were included in the old Imrie-Risley military miniature kits you can see what Clyde Risley did with the uniform questions. I highly recommend them.

Both William Imrie and Clyde Risley were members of the Company of Military Historians.

historygamer02 May 2020 5:49 a.m. PST

The problem with American uniforms is that they can change significantly from year to year, and even vary within states. Do you have specific units in mind?

Bill N02 May 2020 9:57 a.m. PST

BTW Minden Miniatures/Fife & Drum has a line of South Carolina Continental infantry. Kings Mountain Miniatures has a selection of heads for SC Continentals. Both are in 28mm. Historygamer is correct about uniforms changing.

historygamer02 May 2020 6:59 p.m. PST

Other than the French lottery coats, they issued whatever was at hand. It was usually what was brought in from the Caribbean.

Alan M02 May 2020 11:05 p.m. PST

I am going to start the Southern Campaign from 1778 Savannah, in 40mm, so I was hoping to find out if there is an option to be fairly generic with uniforms.

I think, from what has been provided in this thread, that I might be able to do that. I will create a number of bases with mostly blue uniforms with red facings and a couple of hunting shirts, with mostly tricornes probably some other odd brown coats mixed in. I like the idea of having the 1st SC in the cap, but with a few odd figures in tricornes, although I won't be getting those for a while. I'll also have some bases just in hunting shirts. I can mix and match the number of bases to fit unit sizes at each engagement.

Der Alte Fritz, I will be adapting your Fife and Drums rules for 40mm, if they need any adaptations.

This has been very helpful. Thanks all.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP03 May 2020 5:56 a.m. PST

Good luck with your project.

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