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Black Hat Miniatures26 Apr 2020 2:16 p.m. PST

I am looking at WW1 Arab revolt and Palestine as a possible side project and wondered what rules people recommended.

Please bear in mind:

1) NOT "If the Lord Spares Us.." by Too Fat Lardies – nothing against TFL but their rules just don't gel with me.
2) I prefer faster, simpler rules to complicated ones that require a lot of thinking or have an intrusive game mechanism.
3) I want to recreate raids against trains as well as set piece battles – not really looking at true skirmish.
4) I am thinking of 20mm
5 ) The Last Crusade rules look interesting but I can't find a review of them anywhere…

many thanks for any help


Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2020 2:52 p.m. PST

If you are a "The Sword and the Flame" aficionado, then might I recommend "The Sword in Palestine" by Sergeants3? (second page). This set was specifically developed for 'Lawrence of Arabia' battles.

Although the "units" are supposed to be platoons of 20 figures, you can make them whatever size from platoon to battalion that you want. Larry's rules are flexible that way.

You'll need a copy of "The Sword and Flame" as well since TSiP is just a variant.


Big Red Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2020 3:14 p.m. PST

The Sword and the Flame and The Sword in Palestine would work just fine. The Men Who Would be Kings would work well too.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Apr 2020 4:09 p.m. PST

Rampant Colonialism would work…

fredavner Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2020 4:56 p.m. PST

The Last Crusade was a great flavorful set of rules, tho it was not simple

Dances with Clydesdales26 Apr 2020 5:16 p.m. PST

Over the Top (GDW) WWI for Command Decision I. OOP, but there are several on e-bay.

RudyNelson26 Apr 2020 6:13 p.m. PST

Another vote for TSATF.

rmaker26 Apr 2020 6:33 p.m. PST

Yet another vote for TSatF/TSiP. Over the Top is a great set of rules, but it isn't designed for small actions.

Maha Bandula26 Apr 2020 7:10 p.m. PST

Is Contemptible Little Armies no longer popular?

For 20mm, be sure to give B&B Miniatures a look.

tabletopwargamer27 Apr 2020 1:09 a.m. PST

Black powder.

Easy to mod ranges etc.

Simple indirect fire rules.

Just allow maxims a fixed amount of dice as a tiny unit.

Fast, easy. I've used them for ww1 and RCW

Black Hat Miniatures27 Apr 2020 3:53 a.m. PST

Many thanks for the suggestions.

Anyone know how B&B, Tumbling Dice, IT Figures and Strelets 20mm all match up?



Durban Gamer27 Apr 2020 4:16 a.m. PST

The Kisr DBN guys have a set. But have never seen an AAR or review of it anywhere.

Durban Gamer27 Apr 2020 4:17 a.m. PST

Take a look at Pendraken's 10mm range

Black Hat Miniatures27 Apr 2020 6:07 a.m. PST


Yes, I saw the DBN style game but not that keen on DBx style mechanisms for this type of game. Looked interesting though…

I have printed out a solo game from an early Miniature Wargames which has the player controlling a Turkish Column beset by Arab attacks which looks good.

I'm afraid that 20mm is the smallest I go these days – 54mm for anything new up to 1913 and 20mm thereafter…


Maha Bandula27 Apr 2020 8:27 a.m. PST

Tumbling are by far the smallest. Think B&B should fit in well with Strelets. And for what it's worth, I like the sculpting of IT figures best.

Grumble8710620 May 2021 8:26 p.m. PST

Anyone know how B&B, Tumbling Dice, IT Figures and Strelets 20mm all match up?

If you're doing 20 mm and looking at Strelets, also look at HäT Industrie, too. Their WW1 ME lineup is phenomenal:

8070 WWI Ottoman Infantry
8094 WWI Ottoman Artillery and Machine guns
8274 WWI Turkish Cavalry
8071 WWI ANZAC Infantry
8153 WWI Australian Light Horse
8190 WWI ANZAC Heavy Weapons
8236 WWI Indian Infantry
8177 WWI British Heavy Weapons
8256 WWI British Artillery Crew
8272 WWI British Cavalry
8293 WWI British Khaki Drill

I also use the Strelets WW1 French Infantry in summer dress for the small French contingent in the ME.

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