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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2020 12:20 p.m. PST

"I first heard of Circassia when working in Jordan, which has a small Circassian population. The Circassians I met there were Muslims and some of them wore the hijab, so I was intrigued by their light hair, blue-grey eyes and extremely pale skin.

I decided to look them up, and found that Circassians are an ethnic group originally from the North Caucasus. They were expelled from the region in the 1860s by Tsar Alexander II (he of liberal, serfdom-abolishing fame) in a terrible act of ethnic cleansing. Many hundreds of thousands were killed or deported to the neighbouring Ottoman Empire, where most settled in Turkey, and others made their way to the Balkans and elsewhere in the Middle East. It was the descendants of these refugees whom I met in Jordan.

But before and even after the genocide, Circassians held an unusual place in the collective imagination of Europeans, North Americans and Turks. Circassian women were considered by many writers and travellers to be simply the most beautiful women in the world. They had been traded as slaves since the late medieval period, and many ended up in the harems of Ottoman and Persian rulers. A number of Circassians even became the wives or favoured consorts of the Ottoman sultans. Nor was their appeal limited to the Middle East; Cosimo de' Medici had an illegitimate son by a slave woman purchased in Venice, Maddalena, who was said to be a Circassian…"
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HMS Exeter24 Apr 2020 1:01 p.m. PST

I'm not going to venture very far into this, except to note that, given my limited anecdotal exposure to the question, its Lithuania, wall to wall and 10 feet tall.


Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2020 5:11 p.m. PST

I did a search for images of "Circassian women" and concluded that Circassian traditional dress is just an egregious and excessive use of cloth.

JMcCarroll25 Apr 2020 7:31 a.m. PST

They are pretty, but to say they are the most beautiful women in the world is pushing it.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2020 12:59 p.m. PST



Robert le Diable28 Apr 2020 7:05 p.m. PST

I believe one nineteenth-century cosmetic was advertised with the claim that it gave a sixty year old the complexion of a sixteen year old.
It caused spots.

Henry Martini29 Apr 2020 2:52 a.m. PST

Oh, for a return to the days of honesty in advertising.

Robert le Diable29 Apr 2020 5:36 p.m. PST

Well, sometimes it can go too far. One PR Consultant had to advise a client that "Johnson and Son" was a far better name for a business than the scrupulously honest, "Johnson and B-st-rd".

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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP29 Apr 2020 9:33 p.m. PST



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